$40-$70 Titanium Cage LSH

[SAump]

Originally Posted by Matt

So, you've moved from learning to take an HSM off to learning how to take a conventional mask off. Can you stay on subject for one post?

The subject was muscle-memory. It applies to a comment you made about removing a helmet.

Because one has to reach to the back, undo at least one (and probably two) snap(s), then reach to the front.
Lacrosse helmets fit more tightly if worn properly.
The same way you grasp a conventional mask. You grab it on the left side of the jaw, pull forward and up, and it's off.

Tight helmets give me a headache. Funny, reach back where to release the snap and where to remove the helmet. I thought it was decided long ago that if timing was a factor, one should leave the helmet on because of the peripheral vision advantage found in the helmet.

Originally Posted by Matt

Form follows function. A helmet that is not designed for baseball is not likely to be as functional as one that is.

I hear an expensive all-black plate shoe modeled after the NHL pro skate will soon be released. Very comfortable and awesome protection and durability. The designers of the hockey equipment wanted me to say, thank you, for the kind words about them.
http://sports-and-outdoors.become.co...ambigcatid=782
http://cgi.ebay.com/PLH-2000-Black-L...3A1%7C294%3A50
Enough about the strap, or snap, I thank you for your comments. I will reflect on them. Lets hear from others for a couple of pages and/or let the thread expire. Can the LaCrosse helmet take the shot and provide better protection for the user?

[zm1283]

Aside from the fact that those lacrosse helmets look incredibly stupid, I wouldn't trust one while taking a foul tip on the face. (Especially if there was a hacksaw involved to saw some of the bars off)

I have a HSM and it is really easy to take off with one hand. It's pretty easy to put it back on with one hand too.

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Aside from the fact that those lacrosse helmets look incredibly stupid, I wouldn't trust one while taking a foul tip on the face.

I have never been hit by a foul tip. I have, however, been hit by a foul ball.

I can't believe no one else jumped on this.

On topic, I'll stick with my mask.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Aside from the fact that those lacrosse helmets look incredibly stupid, I wouldn't trust one while taking a foul tip on the face.

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

I have never been hit by a foul tip. I have, however, been hit by a foul ball.

I can't believe no one else jumped on this.

On topic, I'll stick with my mask.

We don't bother correcting umpires who emulate the stupidity of baseball announcers because they are proving that they are completely ignorant of the rules (as the statement from one zm1283 shows) and will never learn.

I await the onslaught of unintelligent announcer emulators

[waltjp]

The thought of a plate umpire wearing a lacrosse helmet is just plain dumb. But let's agree on one thing - protection is not the issue. Lacrosse helmets, like football helmets, are designed to protect the head from all angles. Umpire's masks and helmets are primarily designed for protection from only one direction, the front.

The suggestion that a lacrosse helmet wouldn't provide adequate protection from a ball hitting you in the face is wrong. Lacrosse balls are hard and travel at high rates of speed - just like a baseball.

[justanotherblue]

I'm not very familiar with Lacrosse, so just out of curiosity what type of ball do they use? Is it even comparable to a baseball going 90+ MPH and hitting you in the head? If not, why would you even consider wearing such?

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

I'm not very familiar with Lacrosse, so just out of curiosity what type of ball do they use? Is it even comparable to a baseball going 90+ MPH and hitting you in the head? If not, why would you even consider wearing such?

From WikiAnswers:

"A fast shot in lacrosse, usually a sidearm crank, can travel between 100 and 110mph. Average speeds are in the 80-100mph range."


Fast enough for you?

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

I'm not very familiar with Lacrosse, so just out of curiosity what type of ball do they use? Is it even comparable to a baseball going 90+ MPH and hitting you in the head? If not, why would you even consider wearing such?

Okay, I'm bored.

A lacrosse ball is the solid rubber ball that is used to play lacrosse. It is usually between 7.75 and 8 inches in circumference (about 2.5 inches in diameter) and weighs between 5 and 5.25 ounces.

A baseball is generally between 9 and 9¼ inches in circumference (about 2.9 to 2.9 inches in diameter) and 5 ounces in weight.

For you physics buffs

5oz lacrosse ball @ 110mph = 126.40 foot-pound Kinetic Energy
5oz baseball @ 95mph = 94.28 foot-pound Kinetic Energy

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

I await the onslaught of unintelligent announcer emulators

He gone..........

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

We don't bother correcting umpires who emulate the stupidity of baseball announcers because they are proving that they are completely ignorant of the rules (as the statement from one zm1283 shows) and will never learn.

I await the onslaught of unintelligent announcer emulators

Like what, that a foul tip is always live and it's always a strike?

I know what a foul tip is. If you want to argue about how ridiculous a lacrosse helmet would look while umpiring, I'm up for it.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Like what, that a foul tip is always live and it's always a strike?

I know what a foul tip is. If you want to argue about how ridiculous a lacrosse helmet would look while umpiring, I'm up for it.

Let me prove a point! If you know what a foul tip is then how (as an umpire) can you make the statement:

Originally Posted by zm1283

Aside from the fact that those lacrosse helmets look incredibly stupid, I wouldn't trust one while taking a foul tip on the face.

This statement is almost as dumb as someone suggesting the use of football or lacrosse helmets for use by baseball umpires.

Point made and I will not detract any more from this extremely, intriguing subject of helmets for umpires!

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Let me prove a point! If you know what a foul tip is then how (as an umpire) can you make the statement:

This statement is almost as dumb as someone suggesting the use of football or lacrosse helmets for use by baseball umpires.

Point made and I will not detract any more from this extremely, intriguing subject of helmets for umpires!

Sorry! Foul BALL to the face. Are you happy now?

Maybe that's the problem with this board (Any sport): Everyone trying to one-up each other by "making a point" all the time.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

I have never been hit by a foul tip. I have, however, been hit by a foul ball.

I can't believe no one else jumped on this.

On topic, I'll stick with my mask.

Hardy har-har.

Get a life.