Asking BU on a Check Swing

[njdevs00cup]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If BU is going to "call it later" then he's better off "calling it now."

Bob,

I can see this being an issue in the two man system. The phrase "appropriate umpire" in the MLB rules would indicate the U3 would make the call on a check swing w/ a left handed batter. One of the many imperfections of the two man system.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by njdevs00cup

Bob,

I can see this being an issue in the two man system. The phrase "appropriate umpire" in the MLB rules would indicate the U3 would make the call on a check swing w/ a left handed batter. One of the many imperfections of the two man system.

I disagree. Any BU can see, and opine, on a check swing. If there's more than one BU, then the crew needs to "choose" who to ask (so it doesn't become a "vote."). If there's only one BU, then the choice is easy.

If BU in A would rule on a first pitch check swing by a LH batter, then he should rule on a potential dropped third strike by the same batter. And, if he's going to rule on it if asked, he should rule on it before he's asked to avoid putting either team at a disadvantage.

[Blue37]

Originally Posted by njdevs00cup

Bob,

I can see this being an issue in the two man system. The phrase "appropriate umpire" in the MLB rules would indicate the U3 would make the call on a check swing w/ a left handed batter. One of the many imperfections of the two man system.

Isn't there a set of 3 or 4 man mechanics that has the same umpire take the check swing regardless of the handiness of the batter? I am thinking it is the 3rd base ump, but I am not sure.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Blue37

Isn't there a set of 3 or 4 man mechanics that has the same umpire take the check swing regardless of the handiness of the batter? I am thinking it is the 3rd base ump, but I am not sure.

Not that I'm aware of. With two umpires on the line, all go to the umpire that is on the "open side".

In 3-man, with one umpire on the line and the other in the middle some mechanics go to the "open side" whether that umpire is on the line or in the middle; some go to the umpire "on the line" whether that umpire is on the open side or not.

[Blue37]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not that I'm aware of. With two umpires on the line, all go to the umpire that is on the "open side".

In 3-man, with one umpire on the line and the other in the middle go to the "open side" whether that umpire is on the line or in the middle; some go to the umpire "on the line" whether that umpire is on the open side or not.

That's what I was trying to remember. Going to the umpire on the line.

Thanks Bob!

[Cub42]

In the Pro Lg I am in, using 3 man crew, we go to the umpire on the line if one of us is inside. I have found you have a much better perspective from the line than at any time when inside

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Cub42

In the Pro Lg I am in, using 3 man crew, we go to the umpire on the line if one of us is inside. I have found you have a much better perspective from the line than at any time when inside

Since that is not the PBUC mechanic, may we assume that the pro league you're "in" is not affiliated with MiLB?

[Cub42]

I am in the Northern Lg

[Rich]

Originally Posted by njdevs00cup

Bob,

I can see this being an issue in the two man system. The phrase "appropriate umpire" in the MLB rules would indicate the U3 would make the call on a check swing w/ a left handed batter. One of the many imperfections of the two man system.

I get no more worked up calling a swing from A with a LH batter than I do a right handed batter. Or in B or C or whatever. It's just another decision to make and that's what we're paid for.