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Old Fri May 12, 2006, 11:02pm
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i seen this play happened in a college game and i was wondering what the fed rule is on this. there is a 3-2 count on the batter with 2 outs, men on 2nd and 3rd. the 3-2 pitch is called a ball on a check swing and the ball gets away from the catcher and goes to the backstop. the batter heads to first and all the runners move up. the catcher then asks for an appeal and the first base umpire calls it a swing for a third strike. the umpires got together and called the batter out and no run scored. this is hard for me to believe that it was called correctly, just doesn't seem right. what is the fed ruling on this?
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Old Fri May 12, 2006, 11:07pm
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how could they call him out?? doesn't make any difference whether it was a ball or strike (walk or K) - the results should be the same. BR on 1st and other runners advance.
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Old Fri May 12, 2006, 11:10pm
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i seen this play happened in a college game and i was wondering what the fed rule is on this. there is a 3-2 count on the batter with 2 outs, men on 2nd and 3rd. the 3-2 pitch is called a ball on a check swing and the ball gets away from the catcher and goes to the backstop. the batter heads to first and all the runners move up. the catcher then asks for an appeal and the first base umpire calls it a swing for a third strike. the umpires got together and called the batter out and no run scored. this is hard for me to believe that it was called correctly, just doesn't seem right. what is the fed ruling on this?
This is missing one critical piece of information. Did the catcher retrieve the ball and throw it to F3 before the batter arrived at 1B? If so batter is out and inning over. If not then batter is safe and runner advances count. The way this is worded makes me think the batter was not thrown out, since the catcher would not be asking for check swing if batter had been thrown out.

Sounds like a bad call to me.
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how could they call him out?? doesn't make any difference whether it was a ball or strike (walk or K) - the results should be the same. BR on 1st and other runners advance.
i agree. they honestly called the batter out, defense ran off the field, and the coach went crazy. i have no idea what they were thinking.
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This is missing one critical piece of information. Did the catcher retrieve the ball and throw it to F3 before the batter arrived at 1B? If so batter is out and inning over. If not then batter is safe and runner advances count. The way this is worded makes me think the batter was not thrown out, since the catcher would not be asking for check swing if batter had been thrown out.

Sounds like a bad call to me.
no, the catcher did not throw to first base. the batter made it easily to first, the ball went all the way to the backstop, no cance to throw out the batter.
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Old Fri May 12, 2006, 11:15pm
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no, the catcher did not throw to first base. the batter made it easily to first, the ball went all the way to the backstop, no chance to throw out the batter.
Bad call. And the umpires conferred. Amazing!
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Old Sat May 13, 2006, 01:24pm
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I was most likely the SCAB Minor league umpires working the College games while on Strike. Had the Regular College umps been there they would have gotten it right. Gotta hate SCABS.
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Old Sat May 13, 2006, 02:34pm
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Apples, they aren't scabs, they are unemployed.

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Old Sat May 13, 2006, 04:29pm
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Apples, they aren't scabs, they are unemployed.

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If they are unemployed they're not very ambitious.
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Old Sat May 13, 2006, 05:19pm
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If they are unemployed they're not very ambitious.
They may not be ambitious now......just wait until the summer college wood bat leagues start. They will be lining up to work and take games from college umpires.
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Old Sat May 13, 2006, 05:39pm
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Rookies on strike

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They may not be ambitious now......just wa
it until the summer college wood bat leagues start. They will be lining up to work and take games from college umpires.
Then the college umps will be taking High School summer games, HS umps will take the travel games, 2nd and 3rd year guys will take LL and the rookies will be on strike.
Support the Rookies!!!

Wait, will that make us all scabs or none of us scabs?
hmmmmm

It matters not
I'll follow the lead of my professional MiLB brothers, if they stand in solidarity with the rookies, gosh darn it so will I.
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Old Sat May 13, 2006, 07:44pm
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Talking Ambitious

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If they are unemployed they're not very ambitious.
Most still live at home with mom and dad footing the bills.
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Old Sat May 13, 2006, 08:12pm
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