Two Different Strike Zones?? WS Game 5

[Toadman15241]

Since when does the WS have a different set of rules than every other MLB game?? Listening to Bud's press conference and he stated that if the Rays didn't score in the 6th that the game would be in a rain delay for 24-48 hrs in order to complete the game. What a joke. If the game was 2-1 after 4.5 the game should be called. Period.

ETA: Bud just got asked the question. He said that he has enough power to do whatever the hell he wants to do. That is nice to hear.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Toadman15241

Since when does the WS have a different set of rules than every other MLB game?? Listening to Bud's press conference and he stated that if the Rays didn't score in the 6th that the game would be in a rain delay for 24-48 hrs in order to complete the game. What a joke. If the game was 2-1 after 4.5 the game should be called. Period.

ETA: Bud just got asked the question. He said that he has enough power to do whatever the hell he wants to do. That is nice to hear.

There was a rule change...last year, I believe...regarding suspended games. Bud is within the rules this time.

[Toadman15241]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

There was a rule change...last year, I believe...regarding suspended games. Bud is within the rules this time.

No, Bud said if the Phillies were up 2-1 after 5.5 that they would not call the game. They would have called it a rain delay, even if that meant the delay was 24-48 hrs. This is not anywhere close to the rules.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Toadman15241

No, Bud said if the Phillies were up 2-1 after 5.5 that they would not call the game. They would have called it a rain delay, even if that meant the delay was 24-48 hrs. This is not anywhere close to the rules.

MLB has adopted the PBUC rule regarding suspended games. See your PBUC manual (the "Blue Book") page 53, Suspended Games 5.5 (3)

[realistic]

Originally Posted by Toadman15241

No, Bud said if the Phillies were up 2-1 after 5.5 that they would not call the game. They would have called it a rain delay, even if that meant the delay was 24-48 hrs. This is not anywhere close to the rules.

Bud Seling has the authority to do anything that is not specifically stated in the rule book. There is no time limit that a game can remain in a rain delay. The Phillies do not want to go down as the team that had the deciding game handed to them. Bud is a purist and it takes big cajones to make that call. I have never been a fan of his, but I applaud him on this decision.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by realistic

Bud Seling has the authority to do anything that is not specifically stated in the rule book. There is no time limit that a game can remain in a rain delay. The Phillies do not want to go down as the team that had the deciding game handed to them. Bud is a purist and it takes big cajones to make that call. I have never been a fan of his, but I applaud him on this decision.

What was the rationale for asking the Astros to play a home game against the Cubs in Milwaukee?

[David B]

Originally Posted by SAump

What was the rationale for asking the Astros to play a home game against the Cubs in Milwaukee?

There might be a serious answer, but I couldn't resist the obvious,

"called a hurricane"


thanks
David

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by David B

There might be a serious answer, but I couldn't resist the obvious,

"called a hurricane"


thanks
David

That's an excuse and not a justification. There were plenty of more logical sites at which to play those 2 "home" games. Atlanta was one, and even the Rangers' field in Arlington was available. It was in the mid-80s and sunny in Arlington, TX. when those two Astros "home" games were played in the Cubs' backyard.

[realistic]

Originally Posted by SAump

What was the rationale for asking the Astros to play a home game against the Cubs in Milwaukee?

I guess that he felt he wouldn't know when Houston would be "open for business" again.

Like I said, I'm not a fan of his. He is hired by the owner's to run their league. The majority of the time, his decisions are with the owner's in mind.

[OzUmp]

Face it, the non-jock sniffers on these forums are not the only ones talking about the "job" this crew is doing. It is on the minds of a lot of people. It was this zone that was mentioned in the OP that got the Phills out to an early lead. Instead of a strike out (and end of inning) on a batter with two pitches on the inside corner (that were balled) you had a walk followed by a two run double to left. I am not a rays fan but it seems to me that McCarver was right to criticise the PU for his zone. The poor Rays pitcher must have wondered what he had to do to get a strike called besides throw it down the guts.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by Toadman15241

Since when does the WS have a different set of rules than every other MLB game?? Listening to Bud's press conference and he stated that if the Rays didn't score in the 6th that the game would be in a rain delay for 24-48 hrs in order to complete the game. What a joke. If the game was 2-1 after 4.5 the game should be called. Period.

ETA: Bud just got asked the question. He said that he has enough power to do whatever the hell he wants to do. That is nice to hear.

Guess you missed the rule change in 2007

[Toadman15241]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

Guess you missed the rule change in 2007

The 2007 rule change did not get rid of games being official after 5 (or 4.5). Selig stated that IF the score was Philies 2 Rays 1 after 5 1/2 innings he would have suspended the game.

To those of you arguing that there is no problem with this POSSIBLE "ruling," would you have a problem with it if it were during the regular season? (And when was the last time a game was suspended after it was official even though one team was ahead. Never.) If your answer is yes, then there is a problem. The rules should not change from the regular season to the WS.

[griff901c]

Anybody hear of "house rules"?

Buds house..Buds rules.. 24-48-72 hr rain delay......

I believe the 2007 rule change for WS is a valid one. Nobody want to see a team backdoor into a championship.


If we really want to get rid of wacky rules..let's start with the DH..then the home field ca-ca from the winner of the All-Star Game...


griff

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by Toadman15241

The 2007 rule change did not get rid of games being official after 5 (or 4.5). Selig stated that IF the score was Philies 2 Rays 1 after 5 1/2 innings he would have suspended the game.

To those of you arguing that there is no problem with this POSSIBLE "ruling," would you have a problem with it if it were during the regular season? (And when was the last time a game was suspended after it was official even though one team was ahead. Never.) If your answer is yes, then there is a problem. The rules should not change from the regular season to the WS.

Well of course they should and do.

Both teams knew the game was going to go at least nine innings BEFORE the game even started. No World Series Game has ever been called and none ever will.

[realistic]

Originally Posted by Toadman15241

The 2007 rule change did not get rid of games being official after 5 (or 4.5). Selig stated that IF the score was Philies 2 Rays 1 after 5 1/2 innings he would have suspended the game.

To those of you arguing that there is no problem with this POSSIBLE "ruling," would you have a problem with it if it were during the regular season? (And when was the last time a game was suspended after it was official even though one team was ahead. Never.) If your answer is yes, then there is a problem. The rules should not change from the regular season to the WS.

Lighten up, Francis!! Most leagues will have a different set of rules regarding suspension, darkness, etc of the game during the playoffs or championship because this is what determines the champion.

The rule book does not state how long a game can be delayed(rain, etc). During the season there are other schedules to maintain.