wow

Nigel Tufnel · #1 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 26, 2008, 09:34pm

Did you see that last K3 on Utley? Hallion...
Now there's great mechanics....turning your back to the player and facing the crowd...what the f..was that??

kylejt · #2 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 26, 2008, 09:44pm

Was it any better than the missed tag, AFTER the missed obstruction in the rundown?

I hope this Series ends tomorrow, so we aren't shamed any further.

TussAgee11 · #3 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 26, 2008, 09:52pm

I hope it ends tomorrow so this forum can get back to something more meaningful

Couldn't resist!

jimpiano · #4 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 26, 2008, 10:12pm

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Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel

Did you see that last K3 on Utley? Hallion...
Now there's great mechanics....turning your back to the player and facing the crowd...what the f..was that??

That is Hallion's strikeout call.

SethPDX · #5 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 26, 2008, 10:13pm

What was it? His called 3d strike mechanic. I think it looks all right and he has five other umpires to watch the field.

I hope this ends tomorrow so non-MLB umpires stop whining and saying, "that's not how you're supposed to do it!"

I also like how we could hear him shut down the Tampa dugout. He's doing all right.

aschramm · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 26, 2008, 10:28pm

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Originally Posted by SethPDX

I hope this ends tomorrow so non-MLB umpires stop whining and saying, "that's not how you're supposed to do it!"

Agreed.

Nigel Tufnel · #7 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 26, 2008, 10:43pm

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Originally Posted by jimpiano

That is Hallion's strikeout call.

I work too many games to see enough baseball throughout the year..

I don't see too many games on the west coast..

If that's his bread and butter for K3, so be it... It just struck a nerve..

Rich · #8 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 26, 2008, 10:54pm

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Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel

I work too many game to see enough baseball throughout the year..

I don't see too many games on the west coast..

If that's his bread and butter for K3, so be it... It just struck a nerve..

Why, cause some wanna-bes say it's bad to look away from the field?

With good timing, you can make sure the ball's caught and use any mechanic you want, BTW.

Kevin Finnerty · #9 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 26, 2008, 11:12pm

All of the Series umpiring has been just wonderful. I see nothing wrong at all with anything or anyone. In fact, I'm thinking of incorporating the Danley strike/appeal mechanic. They're the best umpires in the world, and they have shown it with each and every call, which so far have been 100% perfect. Like always.

Is that good?

Kevin Finnerty · #10 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 26, 2008, 11:18pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN

Why, cause some wanna-bes say it's bad to look away from the field?

Why, if you are a big achiever in umpiring do you have to demean others who you think rank below you? What does it matter? Many of the top pros that I have met don't act like that, only college umpires. Why? Be more open and decent to the others who share your vocation. That's what true professionalism is.

kylejt · #11 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 27, 2008, 12:41am

So no one else saw obstruction on that play?

Y'all are more worried about his Leslie Neilson punchouts, silly as they are.

Interesting.

SanDiegoSteve · #12 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 27, 2008, 01:56am

I've always liked Hallion's punch out. He remains one of the best umpires in pro baseball. I've enjoyed watching him work since the days when he was a young skinny kid working the scissors. All you haters couldn't carry his mask out to home plate, I guarantee you that. You can rag on some of these guys, but Tom Hallion is a first class umpire.

Rich · #13 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 27, 2008, 06:37am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Why, if you are a big achiever in umpiring do you have to demean others who you think rank below you? What does it matter? Many of the top pros that I have met don't act like that, only college umpires. Why? Be more open and decent to the others who share your vocation. That's what true professionalism is.

I think it's just as unprofessional to come on a site like this and question every little thing ML umpires do. I do not think these guys have had a good series, in general, but questioning a called third strike mechanic cause he looks away from the field after verifying that a ML catcher has caught the pitch is no big deal. It's not a big deal with good HS catchers if you have good timing.

Rich · #14 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 27, 2008, 06:40am

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Originally Posted by kylejt

So no one else saw obstruction on that play?

Y'all are more worried about his Leslie Neilson punchouts, silly as they are.

Interesting.

None of us care anymore. Although the missed tag / tag is a harder call than most pundits give credit for.

David B · #15 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 27, 2008, 11:27pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

All of the Series umpiring has been just wonderful. I see nothing wrong at all with anything or anyone. In fact, I'm thinking of incorporating the Danley strike/appeal mechanic. They're the best umpires in the world, and they have shown it with each and every call, which so far have been 100% perfect. Like always.

Is that good?

Might want to take a look at espn.com. Umpires just admitted to missed calls in two games in a row. Even though, in real time, I think the call at third was correct.

It's easy to find a tag on a frame per frame shot, but in real time, if the glove doesn't move, then the umpire has to call it as he sees it.

thanks
David