Do the participants really care how we are dressed

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

OK Kyle, and be honest now, did you think like that before you took up umpiring?

The point is that many coaches and players are also umpires and know what an umpire is supposed to look like. Even those who don't umpire still know what crap looks like and don't step in it. Maybe you don't care what the umpires look like but out here if one of the two partners is dressed poorly, the response is that "the umpires looked like sh!t today." I've overheard it on several occasions.

I personally have never just wiped the dust off my shoes to work a baseball game. Even between games I washed and re-polished my shoes. I wouldn't have dreamed of going on the ball field looking anything but sharp, and can't imagine anyone not having the same amount of pride in their appearance. I just don't understand how any umpire could walk on the field looking like they escaped from a homeless shelter.

[Tim C]

At seasons end we had over 170 umpires that had been part of the PBUA (school and summer seasons).

Also you can check either with the President of your College group or the assignor (I think you know him) and confirm that I was indeed a college umpire observer. I have already agreed to do it next season also.

You are correct in the number of games that I actually had a "for pay" evaluation last season.

I have stayed silent in respect to our association(s) when you have made several wild statements on this board. I will no longer offer you that professional respect.

You wrote your words and I only corrrectly quoted them.

Live in your own mess.

Regards,

Originally Posted by Tim C

At seasons end we had over 170 umpires that had been part of the PBUA (school and summer seasons).

Also you can check either with the President of your College group or the assignor (I think you know him) and confirm that I was indeed a college umpire observer. I have already agreed to do it next season also.

You are correct in the number of games that I actually had a "for pay" evaluation last season.

I have stayed silent in respect to our association(s) when you have made several wild statements on this board. I will no longer offer you that professional respect.

You wrote your words and I only corrrectly quoted them.

Live in your own mess.

Regards,

LOL...ok Tim. Remember though, that does work both ways!

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

The point is that many coaches and players are also umpires and know what an umpire is supposed to look like. Even those who don't umpire still know what crap looks like and don't step in it. Maybe you don't care what the umpires look like but out here if one of the two partners is dressed poorly, the response is that "the umpires looked like sh!t today." I've overheard it on several occasions.

I personally have never just wiped the dust off my shoes to work a baseball game. Even between games I washed and re-polished my shoes. I wouldn't have dreamed of going on the ball field looking anything but sharp, and can't imagine anyone not having the same amount of pride in their appearance. I just don't understand how any umpire could walk on the field looking like they escaped from a homeless shelter.

Suppose you go to watch your favorite team play - and they play poorly. As you leave you just might say "Boy, they sure looked like crap today".

Are you referring to their performance or their attire? Got a picture of Ben says you're talking about their performance.

Why do you think a similar comment about the officials would be about their attire?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Suppose you go to watch your favorite team play - and they play poorly. As you leave you just might say "Boy, they sure looked like crap today".

Are you referring to their performance or their attire? Got a picture of Ben says you're talking about their performance.

Why do you think a similar comment about the officials would be about their attire?

You would lose. I'm talking about appearance, their dress, etc. They have gone on to elaborate about specific things such as "looked like he slept in his uniform" and other such comments.

I am also speaking generally that if one partner looks really sharp, and the other partner looks like a bum, the only thing the coaches will usually remember is that "they looked bad," not "he looked bad." The poorly dressed official reflects negatively in the perception of the entire crew.

Now, yes I have been lumped in with a partner who blew several easy, obvious calls on the bases. I ended up being scratched from that teams playoff games because the JV coach had the varsity squad that day, and couldn't tell the varsity coach which of the two umpires sucked that day, so he scratched us both.

Typical coach mentality, present company excluded.