Appeal

[SanDiegoSteve]

Even the blind squirrel gets the occasional nut!

[umpjong]

Griff is correct in NCAA rule interp. If a runner advances on a botched appeal play then there can no longer be an appeal. NCAA Rule 8-6-b (5b) pg. 98.

[griff901c]

Originally Posted by umpjong

Griff is correct in NCAA rule interp. If a runner advances on a botched appeal play then there can no longer be an appeal. NCAA Rule 8-6-b (5b) pg. 98.

Yes..Yes..Yes..thats what I meant...NCAA...Thats it!

griff

[Rich]

Originally Posted by griff901c

Yes..Yes..Yes..thats what I meant...NCAA...Thats it!

griff

It's interesting, actually.

The NCAA uses the word errs completely different from OBR/PBUC/Evans. "Errs" in that setting refers only to a ball thrown out of play. The NCAA clearly means something different.

I never consider NCAA to be the default rule set, though, even though I work NCAA games.

I find it to be an unusual rule, actually. I can appeal by stepping off and walking the ball to the base in NCAA. Why would the route the ball takes to the base be important?

[Klokard]

Let's go one step further on the original post. If the runner on 3rd is heads up enough to return to second on the errant throw by the pitcher, has he now rightfully acquired second base? Assuming as brought forth in a previous post the ball is live.

[yawetag]

As long as the ball never goes dead. Once the ball is dead, a player has no right to return to a base they missed, unless it's to retouch on a defense error (ball thrown out of play).

Originally Posted by Klokard

Let's go one step further on the original post. If the runner on 3rd is heads up enough to return to second on the errant throw by the pitcher, has he now rightfully acquired second base? Assuming as brought forth in a previous post the ball is live.

[ptmac]

Once a runner has touched a succeeding base, they lose the right to return to an untouched base. For example, in MacGuire's record home run, he missed first base and was called back to touch it before touching second. If he had touched second, the defence could have appealed after the ball was put back into play and the home run would have been negated on the failure to touch first.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by yawetag

As long as the ball never goes dead. Once the ball is dead, a player has no right to return to a base they missed, unless it's to retouch on a defense error (ball thrown out of play).

This is not true in OBR. As long as the runner does not touch an advance base after the ball goes dead, he may correct his error.