pickoff at 2nd, what's the call?

[chuckfan1]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

He's not saying that -- his answer was only one word, after all.

If he's firmly on the base a "lean" isn't going to take R2 down, is it?

Rich, come on, from reading your opinions on these kinds of things, youve always seemed like someone who knows the proper calls on plays like these..

You say a "lean". I guess one can read it different, but when the post says..

.."the runner gets back to second base standing up"... "back" means hes in "control" of the base, and his body movements, hes not leaning, or barely hanging onto the base by a fingertip.

and..

...."has to reach around the runner standing on second to catch the throw"

Its says the shortstop is the one whos off-balance. And so the dominoes fall. The shortstop is reaching around the runner to make the catch, which causes him to "lean" on the runner, AFTER making the catch (key point), which causes both to fall to the ground.

We cant see the play, but just playing Colombo here, the circumstantial evidence , to me, is too great to ignore.

Runner back to the base, standing up....................reach around the runner standing on 2nd......then the shortstop AFTER catching the ball makes contact, off balance....taking them off the base. Shortstop has the ball, then makes contact...guilty your honor.