2-man mechanics

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

How did it burn you?

Regardless of how many times I work with my regular partners, I'll give my partner on the plate the stop sign while communicating "I have it all."

I say I got burned because I was still by second both times I made the call. After seeing my partner at home, I knew I had to make the call. I should say I was out of position. I know both times I made the correct call because the tag was missed *shew*

I am learning a lot this year since I'm not working with a regular partner. Before, I knew exactly where my partner was going to be.

-Josh

[RPatrino]

Josh, do you have 'pre-game' time with your partner? This is where you agree on what you will do in these situations. Generally, with R2 only, base ump has catch,tag up and advance into 3rd.

With R1 and R2, then things get a little dicey. I'm curious, how would you think this sitch should be handled? Assume a fly ball in the "V" and then assume a fly ball down the RF line (this is a quiz). LOL

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

Josh, do you have 'pre-game' time with your partner? This is where you agree on what you will do in these situations. Generally, with R2 only, base ump has catch,tag up and advance into 3rd.

With R1 and R2, then things get a little dicey. I'm curious, how would you think this sitch should be handled? Assume a fly ball in the "V" and then assume a fly ball down the RF line (this is a quiz). LOL

Of course I had pre-game time. It just so happens this happened twice in the same game. I figured it was a misunderstanding the first time it happened so we had a little pow-wow between half innings (which I never do). We decided he would come up the line to help out if it's on the right side of second, but within the "V". Of course, the next time the exact situation happened, there was nobody there again. I was just curious what the mechanic actually is.

With a fly ball down the right field line, PU would take the catch and BU takes the tag-up at second and plays at 2nd and 3rd. That I always discuss in the pre-game. I guess I'm just going to have to add the other

Thanks gentleman!

-Josh

[Emperor Ump]

Originally Posted by jdmara

I say I got burned because I was still by second both times I made the call. After seeing my partner at home, I knew I had to make the call. I should say I was out of position. I know both times I made the correct call because the tag was missed *shew*

I am learning a lot this year since I'm not working with a regular partner. Before, I knew exactly where my partner was going to be.

-Josh

Josh,
This is actually a very good question as bob jenkins said it can vary depending on where you are and the level of partner you have.

BU the book this is not a rotation play and the BU should have both plays. That being said I don't know how many times where I've been in this situation either as BU or PU and the PU take the play at third. The key is communication. As BU you should believe that both plays are yours until you hear from your partner he's got third. Once you hear he's taking third give him a quick glance and make sure he really is there then you can give up your responsibilities at third.

From the PU stand point that high fly ball in the V can put your partner in a situation where he doesn't have optimum coverage for a play at third. Read the play if you can be at third, then get there. You have no other responsibilities. Then communicate with your partner that you've got third and get an acknowledgement. The last thing you want and need is 2 people on one play.

While this is not an in the book rotation situation it is being a good partner. The key here is communication.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Emperor Ump

From the PU stand point that high fly ball in the V can put your partner in a situation where he doesn't have optimum coverage for a play at third. Read the play if you can be at third, then get there. You have no other responsibilities. Then communicate with your partner that you've got third and get an acknowledgement. The last thing you want and need is 2 people on one play.

While this is not an in the book rotation situation it is being a good partner. The key here is communication.

I'll second this.

I'll give another play:

R2. Less than 2 outs. Sinking line drive bringing F9 to his right and forward. Diving catch.

As the BU, I have to make the catch/no catch my primary responsibility. While the nature of the catch may make a subsequent play at third difficult, if I'm the plate umpire, I'm reading that my partner is likely out of position now (at the edge of the infield grass between first and second) to get a good angle and distance for the play at third. I'm coming up. I'm also going to be lining up the tag at second since I know that the BU will need to stay with the play to make sure there's a legal catch. Now, I won't poach an appeal, but I will be prepared if I'm asked by my partner to get involved.

Game and situation sense is pretty darned important and mechanics are designed to cover a majority of situations, but I think it's important to be flexible in situations and to be a good partner.

[aceholleran]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I'll second this.

I'll give another play:

R2. Less than 2 outs. Sinking line drive bringing F9 to his right and forward. Diving catch.

As the BU, I have to make the catch/no catch my primary responsibility. While the nature of the catch may make a subsequent play at third difficult, if I'm the plate umpire, I'm reading that my partner is likely out of position now (at the edge of the infield grass between first and second) to get a good angle and distance for the play at third. I'm coming up. I'm also going to be lining up the tag at second since I know that the BU will need to stay with the play to make sure there's a legal catch. Now, I won't poach an appeal, but I will be prepared if I'm asked by my partner to get involved.

Game and situation sense is pretty darned important and mechanics are designed to cover a majority of situations, but I think it's important to be flexible in situations and to be a good partner.

I'm with you on this. Common sense says PU stays put, but in baseball, you never know.

ace