The Smitty Chronicles

[celebur]

Originally Posted by aceholleran

I KNEW some of youse would jump all over me for wearing a watch.

So...would you like "youse" to be pronounced like "ewes". Or would you prefer that it rhyme with "louse"?

[CO ump]

Originally Posted by aceholleran

I knew a similar guy who did hoops. I was on his board. Once I watched him do a key state game where he totally botched a player DQ. At the next meeting, the same ref went into a longish screed about fouling-out procedure, citing his own botched work (but not referring to himself). I knew I was leaving the board soon, so I stood up and asked, "Hey Frank--who worked that game?" He sat down, speechless, and the room cracked up.


Ace

So a guy makes a mistake, owns up to it and you feel the need to embarass him. And then only because you were leaving the board
In my neck of the woods we call that "coward"

[TussAgee11]

Originally Posted by CO ump

So a guy makes a mistake, owns up to it and you feel the need to embarass him. And then only because you were leaving the board
In my neck of the woods we call that "coward"

The guy was not owning up to his mistake. He was telling everybody how to deal with DQs and cited his own game mess up without saying it was his game and he botched it.

If an official can't deal with being a bit thrown off in an association meeting, how in the heck is he going to listen to a coach in his ear for 4 quarters?

[mick]

[quote=TussAgee11]The guy was not owning up to his mistake. He was telling everybody how to deal with DQs and cited his own game mess up without saying it was his game and he botched it.

If an official can't deal with being a bit thrown off in an association meeting, how in the heck is he going to listen to a coach in his ear for 4 quarters?[/quote]

Tuss,
There something to be said for that.

But, I hafta judge intent. If the intent is to flame and humiliate, then making such statements is rude, impolite, disrespectful and ill-mannered.

[aceholleran]

Originally Posted by CO ump

So a guy makes a mistake, owns up to it and you feel the need to embarass him. And then only because you were leaving the board
In my neck of the woods we call that "coward"

In my neck of the woods, we don't throw names like that around.

If anyone was a pantywaist, it was the veteran ref who couldn't own up to his own mistake, yet decided to subject his audience to a long diatribe, when he, in fact, was the erring ref. He deserved every bit of my treatment. That was the point of my post.

I'm done with you, CO. I can't brook such babbling.

Ace

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by aceholleran

If anyone was a pantywaist, it was the veteran ref who couldn't own up to his own mistake, yet decided to subject his audience to a long diatribe, when he, in fact, was the erring ref. He deserved every bit of my treatment.

Ace

No, he didn't.

Rita

[RPatrino]

Guys/Gals, when you are watching a game do you take the time to walk up and critique the officials working the game? I don't. The point is, this guy had no business even approaching Ace and saying anything, except perhaps, "Hi, how you doing Ace?"

[Forest Ump]

I've met Mr. Smitty.

See: What would you call this guy?

[celebur]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

Guys/Gals, when you are watching a game do you take the time to walk up and critique the officials working the game? I don't. The point is, this guy had no business even approaching Ace and saying anything, except perhaps, "Hi, how you doing Ace?"

I don't think anyone would disagree with that (at least, I hope no one would).

The problem is in presenting extraneous information such as the watch issue, and then throwing a hissy fit when some people (correctly) call it. For shame!

[aceholleran]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

Guys/Gals, when you are watching a game do you take the time to walk up and critique the officials working the game? I don't. The point is, this guy had no business even approaching Ace and saying anything, except perhaps, "Hi, how you doing Ace?"

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. I am sooooo sorry that I wore a watch during a game.

I am sorry I didn't put with the sh!t of someone coming to my game and making comments.

At least RPat got through to the gist of my post.

Ace

[CO ump]

Originally Posted by aceholleran

In my neck of the woods, we don't throw names like that around.

If anyone was a pantywaist, it was the veteran ref who couldn't own up to his own mistake, yet decided to subject his audience to a long diatribe, when he, in fact, was the erring ref. He deserved every bit of my treatment. That was the point of my post.

Ace

Originally Posted by aceholleran

I was on his board. ...
I knew I was leaving the board soon, so I stood up and asked, "Hey Frank--who worked that game?" He sat down, speechless, and the room cracked up.

Sorry ACE
Based on your post it appeared to me that the only reason you stood up and embarrassed the man is because you were "leaving the board soon".
If he deserved every bit of your treatment I would think he deserved it whether or not you were leaving the board.

But you're probably right, I shouldn't be so cavalier about throwing out a word like coward.
There's probably better ones to describe officials that will publicly embarrass their fellow brothers and then not stick around to face them.

[TussAgee11]

Umm, to be fair, I believe that this whole thread has bashed our "brother officials."

90% of officials talk about the other 10% (normally behind their backs). The other 10% don't talk to anyone, because they are smitties.

At least Ace did it to the guy's face, not because of a problem he had with him as an official, but as a person. Honestly, who stands in front of a room lecturing about how to do something without admitting they made the mistake too... maybe a politician. Sometimes you gotta do what's right... and expose people for who they really are, especially when their peers are eating every word of what they are saying...

[mbyron]

10%? The percentage of smitties in my association is somewhat higher.

[ILRef80]

I worked a summer league game (17-18 year old kids) today with a guy who didn't have a ball bag, wore a brown belt and even work khakis

[zebra2955]

Originally Posted by ILRef80

I worked a summer league game (17-18 year old kids) today with a guy who didn't have a ball bag, wore a brown belt and even work khakis

I think I know that guy!!
Did he also wear a fishing hat?