Assignor Nightmares

[His High Holiness]

All,

I don't assign anymore but now and then a nightmare comes to my attention that I pass on for your amusement. This one resulted in 4 ejections. The umpires did nothing wrong, other than to be at the wrong game at the wrong time:

FED rules, high school varsity game which is being televised on a local access station.

Top of 7th, home team leading by one run. The visitors lead off the inning with a double to put the tying run at 2nd. As the BU is pivoting in from position A, he notices that the BR missed 1st base, but no one else seems to have noticed. The BU nonchalantly takes position B. The pitcher gets ready to pitch and the home team announcer says over the PA system: "The telecast clearly shows that BR missed 1st base so you might want to appeal.

The pitcher correctly steps off the rubber and makes the proper appeal.

Peter

(One of the ejected was the announcer)

[jkumpire]

Originally Posted by His High Holiness

All,

I don't assign anymore but now and then a nightmare comes to my attention that I pass on for your amusement. This one resulted in 4 ejections. The umpires did nothing wrong, other than to be at the wrong game at the wrong time:

FED rules, high school varsity game which is being televised on a local access station.

Top of 7th, home team leading by one run. The visitors lead off the inning with a double to put the tying run at 2nd. As the BU is pivoting in from position A, he notices that the BR missed 1st base, but no one else seems to have noticed. The BU nonchalantly takes position B. The pitcher gets ready to pitch and the home team announcer says over the PA system: "The telecast clearly shows that BR missed 1st base so you might want to appeal.

The pitcher correctly steps off the rubber and makes the proper appeal.

Peter

(One of the ejected was the announcer)

Peter,

Who else went?
How long did it take?
How long were the suspensions by the state authorities?
Do you have tape?

[Toadman15241]

Originally Posted by jkumpire

Peter,

Who else went?

If I was the visiting manager, first base coach, or kid called out on appeal I know that I wouldn't have been sticking around to see the end of the game.

[Jurassic Referee]

I'm not an umpire and I certainly aren't beisbol rules knowledgeable, but.....does the umpire have any choice but to allow the appeal?

[umpduck11]

Wow....

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I'm not an umpire and I certainly aren't beisbol rules knowledgeable, but.....does the umpire have any choice but to allow the appeal?

Not by ordinary rules. Some might wish to invoke 9.01(c) (or the corresponding FED rule, 10-something). Clearly, an advantage not intended by the rules has been given to one team.

[BigTex]

....balk the pitcher as he steps off, now you can't appeal.



Edited to add smiley because somebody's sarcasm detector is broken.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by BigTex

....balk the pitcher as he steps off, now you can't appeal.

My umpire manual is missing the mechanic that I should cheat to prevent one of the teams from cheating.

[BigTex]

Originally Posted by mbyron

My umpire manual is missing the mechanic that I should cheat to prevent one of the teams from cheating.

....sorry, I forgot the smiley.

[PeteBooth]

The announcer is EJ'd that means 3 more.

My guess

The first base coach and the OM

That's 3.

Now you didn't give us the final outcome so perhaps the umpires got together and decided that since the Defense ORIGINALLY had no intention of appealing the missed base and only did so because of the PA announcer, then they reversed their decision and left R2 and second base. The decision could be based on the fact that No replay equipment is to be used and in a way that's precisely what happened.

Now here comes the DM and he in turn gets dumped which makes 4 Ej's

How did I do?

Pete Booth

[CO ump]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

The announcer is EJ'd that means 3 more.

My guess

The first base coach and the OM

That's 3.

Now you didn't give us the final outcome so perhaps the umpires got together and decided that since the Defense ORIGINALLY had no intention of appealing the missed base and only did so because of the PA announcer, then they reversed their decision and left R2 and second base. The decision could be based on the fact that No replay equipment is to be used and in a way that's precisely what happened.

Now here comes the DM and he in turn gets dumped which makes 4 Ej's

How did I do?

Pete Booth

The umpires absolutely got bushwhacked on this one BUT:
If both defensive and offensive personal got dumped then maybe the umps didn't act quite as decisively as they could have.

If they immediately tell both benches to take a chill pill, get together hash out what they want to do and then come to the coaches with their decision then only one side goes bonkers.
I hope we hear that it was the PA announcer and three defensive ejections.

[David B]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

The announcer is EJ'd that means 3 more.

My guess

The first base coach and the OM

That's 3.

Now you didn't give us the final outcome so perhaps the umpires got together and decided that since the Defense ORIGINALLY had no intention of appealing the missed base and only did so because of the PA announcer, then they reversed their decision and left R2 and second base. The decision could be based on the fact that No replay equipment is to be used and in a way that's precisely what happened.

Now here comes the DM and he in turn gets dumped which makes 4 Ej's

How did I do?

Pete Booth

My guess would be the R2 who is out for missing the base. Upon finding that he will be out, he utters a few "@***" at the BU and is tossed.

Then the 1st base coach, just because he's an assistant, followed by the head coach.

As far as rules, the BU has no choice but to call the runner out and continue.
Hey, the kid should have never missed the base to start with ...

thanks
David

[ODJ]

Originally Posted by BigTex

....balk the pitcher as he steps off, now you can't appeal.



Edited to add smiley because somebody's sarcasm detector is broken.

Yeah!! Replays never show balks anyway.

[CO ump]

Originally Posted by David B

My guess would be the R2 who is out for missing the base. Upon finding that he will be out, he utters a few "@***" at the BU and is tossed.

Then the 1st base coach, just because he's an assistant, followed by the head coach.

As far as rules, the BU has no choice but to call the runner out and continue.
Hey, the kid should have never missed the base to start with ...

thanks
David

But if the umpires call time and conference prior to the appeal being made, decide that an appeal in this case won't be allowed then he (BU) will never have to rule on the appeal.
The umpires integrity stay intact and only defensive personnel get ejected.

[PeteBooth]

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QUOTE=David B]

As far as rules, the BU has no choice but to call the runner out and continue.

thanks
David

[/QUOTE]

David there is a rule (I am at work and don't have the rule number) that prohibits the use of replay equipment.

In this instance (The PA announcing that the BR missed first base) is IMO equivalent to using Replay equipment hence the appeal should not be allowed because it's apprent from the OP that the Defense was NOT going to appeal. F1 was getting ready to pitch but then he heard the PA announcer and who at this point wouldn't appeal.

COump could be right in that the other 3 EJ's came from the defense but depending upon how the situation was handled there could have been EJ's from both sides.

Hopefully Peter will tell us exactly who got EJ'd in addition to the PA announcer.

Pete Booth