Basketball ref with a question

[fullor30]

Ok, I jumped over from the b-ball forum with a baseball question from my son's game yesterday.

Man on third, two outs, 3-2 count, runner going, strike three, dropped third strike. Batter gets out of way of runner who slides 'safely' home, batter rather than running to first , starts to walk back to dugout. Ump calls batter out for doing so, then indicates that run scored before he signaled out.

I say impossible but can't give rule( our team was given the run). Umps a friend of mine and he couldn't site the rule and both he and partner thought it was correct call. I know that once you head for dugout, it's an out, but would bet a cold one that run doesn't count.

Thanks........

[mbyron]

If the batter is the third out before he reaches 1B, then no run can score. (Don't have the book, but I seem to recall that's OBR 4.09; same rule in HS and NCAA.)

So if your ump ruled the batter out for abandonment, then he was wrong to award the run.

[Delaware Blue]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I say impossible but can't give rule...

Here's one:
OBR 4.09(a) EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Delaware Blue

Here's one:
OBR 4.09(a) EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.

Thanks guys..........

[Forest Ump]

Abandonment of a base would be a timing play with the exception of abandonment of first base. Run does not score as per what others have written.

[RPatrino]

Steve, speaking of abandonment, I had to give back the games we were scheduled to do on Friday and Saturday!! Conflicts with NEB games.