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fullor30 Mon Apr 28, 2008 09:08am

Basketball ref with a question
 
Ok, I jumped over from the b-ball forum with a baseball question from my son's game yesterday.

Man on third, two outs, 3-2 count, runner going, strike three, dropped third strike. Batter gets out of way of runner who slides 'safely' home, batter rather than running to first , starts to walk back to dugout. Ump calls batter out for doing so, then indicates that run scored before he signaled out.

I say impossible but can't give rule( our team was given the run). Umps a friend of mine and he couldn't site the rule and both he and partner thought it was correct call. I know that once you head for dugout, it's an out, but would bet a cold one that run doesn't count.

Thanks........

mbyron Mon Apr 28, 2008 09:52am

If the batter is the third out before he reaches 1B, then no run can score. (Don't have the book, but I seem to recall that's OBR 4.09; same rule in HS and NCAA.)

So if your ump ruled the batter out for abandonment, then he was wrong to award the run.

Delaware Blue Mon Apr 28, 2008 09:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30
I say impossible but can't give rule...

Here's one:
OBR 4.09(a) EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.

fullor30 Mon Apr 28, 2008 04:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delaware Blue
Here's one:
OBR 4.09(a) EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.


Thanks guys..........

Forest Ump Mon Apr 28, 2008 05:03pm

Abandonment of a base would be a timing play with the exception of abandonment of first base. Run does not score as per what others have written.

RPatrino Mon Apr 28, 2008 05:18pm

Steve, speaking of abandonment, I had to give back the games we were scheduled to do on Friday and Saturday!! Conflicts with NEB games.


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