Home run or double?

[fitump56]

So if an OF sees that a fair ball is going over the fence, he can knock that fair ball foul. No problem, ball is live. If he knockss that same fair ball out of play (over the fence in foul territory), the B is limited to 2B?

[DG]

See #19 in the 2008 BRD. For all codes:

Fair ball deflected over fence fair = home run.

Fair ball deflected over fence foul = two bases.

You might wonder why it is in the BRD if all codes are the same. It's because all codes do not cover, and it's in the interpretations where they come together.

[soundedlikeastrike]

Originally Posted by fitump56

If he knockss that same fair ball out of play (over the fence in foul territory), the B is limited to 2B?

I know it.

Here, long fly down the line.
RHF9 leaps and snares the ball over the fence in fair territory. His momentum carries him (k-bong) into the mild steel foul pole. Causing him to lose the ball, it flies behind the FP, and into the RF seats, clearly into foul territory. Dinger,, it left the field at the (k-bong), behind the FP, in fair territory and over the fence.

Same play LHF9, (k-bong) the ball goes in front of the foul pole and into the stands, double.

Moral of the story, LH's in right and RH's in left.

[DG]

Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike

I know it.

Here, long fly down the line.
RHF9 leaps and snares the ball over the fence in fair territory. His momentum carries him (k-bong) into the mild steel foul pole. Causing him to lose the ball, it flies behind the FP, and into the RF seats, clearly into foul territory. Dinger,, it left the field at the (k-bong), behind the FP, in fair territory and over the fence.

Same play LHF9, (k-bong) the ball goes in front of the foul pole and into the stands, double.

Moral of the story, LH's in right and RH's in left.

As for outfielders, best arm in RF, 3rd best in LF. Forget about this play that never happens.

[Dave Reed]

Originally Posted by DG

See #19 in the 2008 BRD. For all codes:

Fair ball deflected over fence fair = home run.

Fair ball deflected over fence foul = two bases.

Really? I only own the 2004 edition and in that one CC says NCAA is "same as FED except award 2 bases if fair ball is deflected over the fence into foul ground."

Maybe I need to spring for a new version.

[DG]

Originally Posted by Dave Reed

Really? I only own the 2004 edition and in that one CC says NCAA is "same as FED except award 2 bases if fair ball is deflected over the fence into foul ground."

Maybe I need to spring for a new version.

Several additions were made to item 19 for the 2008 edition, from the 2006 edition (there was no 2007 edition). In the 2006 edition the BRD recommended treating as in NCAA, award 2 bases if fair ball is deflected over the fence into foul territory.

Yep, you need a new BRD.

[Dave Reed]

Originally Posted by fitump56

So if an OF sees that a fair ball is going over the fence, he can knock that fair ball foul. No problem, ball is live. If he knockss that same fair ball out of play (over the fence in foul territory), the B is limited to 2B?

If by "knocks" you mean "intentionally deflects", then NCAA, by rule, awards 2 bases from the time of the deflection. Could turn into a triple or plausibly a home run.

Of course, if you have Garth's understanding of the game, you might choose to believe that the rule folks didn't really mean to have this rule apply in this case, but it is pretty clear. By the way, OBR doesn't have this rule explicitly; but by interpretation, an intentional deflection is treated as a throw, and the same award results if we're talking about an outfielder.

NCAA 8-3o.-(5)
"(5) If any batted or thrown ball intentionally is kicked, thrown, deflected or carried into a dead-ball territory, the runner(s) shall be awarded two bases from the time of the act;"

edited to improve the grammar

[bucknutsx33]

so basically it doesn't sound like anyone is for sure on this. because if was an outfielder and the ball was near the foul pole and i didnt think i could catch it but yet swat it into foul territory how is it that the runner would only have a double. something isn't adding up IMO