Yanks/Tribe...Did it hit the bat?...commentator comments?

[PeteBooth]

Football officials have done games in front of way more than 50,000 people in attendance and

they are the best at what they do,

, yet the NFL and NCAA has Replay

You said it yourself it's because of the speed of the game.

There is always going to be the human element in the game, but if the ball is truly not a HR or vice versa and there is technology to correct it why not use it.

IMO, it's a Cop out. As mentioned Football / Basketball Officials are the best at what they do but Replay is used. IMO baseball should be no different.

Pete Booth

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

IMO baseball should be no different.

Pete Booth

Ahhhh, but it is. And for many, that's part of its charm.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

Football officials have done games in front of way more than 50,000 people in attendance and , yet the NFL and NCAA has Replay

You said it yourself it's because of the speed of the game.

There is always going to be the human element in the game, but if the ball is truly not a HR or vice versa and there is technology to correct it why not use it.

IMO, it's a Cop out. As mentioned Football / Basketball Officials are the best at what they do but Replay is used. IMO baseball should be no different.

Pete Booth

Then I assume you have no problem with replacing the home plate umpire's duties of calling ball and strikes by using the computer, instead?

After all, MLB has the technology to get every call right, and there would be no delay in the game.

[PeteBooth]

No one at least not I is talking about balls / strikes. According to Bud every Park next year will have queztech in which to evaluate the Home plate umpire.

I am talking about a BIG play ala a HR which IMO is where MLB should FIRST address the replay issue. It's similar to a TD pass in football which is a BIG play.

As far as the "other" type plays that area would be phased in. Perhaps a challenge type system which the NFL has or something along those lines. The BIG question to address would be what type of penalty would you give the manager if his challenge is unsuccessful.

Replay doesn't seem to affect the integrity of the Football officials so why should it effect major league baseball umpires.

Bottom Line: The ONLY area that baseball will probably adopt Replay is on Fair / Foul on a HR or whether or not the ball is truly a HR or book rule double. Also, if a FAN interfered with ball in the field of play or not.


Pete Booth

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

No one at least not I is talking about balls / strikes. According to Bud every Park next year will have queztech in which to evaluate the Home plate umpire.

I am talking about a BIG play ala a HR which IMO is where MLB should FIRST address the replay issue. It's similar to a TD pass in football which is a BIG play.

As far as the "other" type plays that area would be phased in. Perhaps a challenge type system which the NFL has or something along those lines. The BIG question to address would be what type of penalty would you give the manager if his challenge is unsuccessful.

Replay doesn't seem to affect the integrity of the Football officials so why should it effect major league baseball umpires.



Bottom Line: The ONLY area that baseball will probably adopt Replay is on Fair / Foul on a HR or whether or not the ball is truly a HR or book rule double. Also, if a FAN interfered with ball in the field of play or not.

Pete Booth

If you refuse to use the technology that exists to be error free in calling balls and strikes, why use it anywhere else? Nothing happens without a pitcher and a batter and if there is not a consistent strike zone then someone is getting hosed.

Only a few games have disputed home runs and fan intereference, but every game has disputes about balls and strikes.

[Interested Ump]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

If you refuse to use the technology that exists to be error free in calling balls and strikes, why use it anywhere else? Nothing happens without a pitcher and a batter and if there is not a consistent strike zone then someone is getting hosed.

All or nothing? No need for that.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

No one at least not I is talking about balls / strikes. According to Bud every Park next year will have queztech in which to evaluate the Home plate umpire.

I am talking about a BIG play ala a HR which IMO is where MLB should FIRST address the replay issue. It's similar to a TD pass in football which is a BIG play.

As far as the "other" type plays that area would be phased in. Perhaps a challenge type system which the NFL has or something along those lines. The BIG question to address would be what type of penalty would you give the manager if his challenge is unsuccessful.

Replay doesn't seem to affect the integrity of the Football officials so why should it effect major league baseball umpires.

Bottom Line: The ONLY area that baseball will probably adopt Replay is on Fair / Foul on a HR or whether or not the ball is truly a HR or book rule double. Also, if a FAN interfered with ball in the field of play or not.


Pete Booth

Don Quixote: Dost not see? A monstrous giant of infamous repute whom I intend to encounter.

Sancho Panza: It's a windmill.

[Interested Ump]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

No one at least not I is talking about balls / strikes. According to Bud every Park next year will have queztech in which to evaluate the Home plate umpire.

I am talking about a BIG play ala a HR which IMO is where MLB should FIRST address the replay issue. It's similar to a TD pass in football which is a BIG play.

As far as the "other" type plays that area would be phased in. Perhaps a challenge type system which the NFL has or something along those lines. The BIG question to address would be what type of penalty would you give the manager if his challenge is unsuccessful.

None. Just limit the challenges.

Replay doesn't seem to affect the integrity of the Football officials so why should it effect major league baseball umpires.

Bottom Line: The ONLY area that baseball will probably adopt Replay is on Fair / Foul on a HR or whether or not the ball is truly a HR or book rule double. Also, if a FAN interfered with ball in the field of play or not.


Pete Booth

I see the possibilities on a catch/no catch scenario. Wouldn't it be great if a BU could make a call on a diving fly ball then huddle with PU to see if a request to review is appropriate (catch no catch)?

[Interested Ump]

Originally Posted by msavakinas

This idea you have of instant replay in baseball is preposterous. Baseball is not the same as basketball or football. Baseball is not the sport for it. It has no place in baseball whatsoever. That takes the human element out of the game. The umpires being there is part of the game and is what is needed for the game to be fun and eventful.

I see a lot of emotion in the above; I read no content or argument that would disallow any serious consideration of Instant Reply/Review to be used in MLB.

How about the blowout games where the manager comes out of the dugout to get tossed just to give the fans a show. How about the games where it is a blowout and that pitch just a smither outside is now a ball because your computer says it is, when it could've been strike 3 on the team up 30-3 (YES IT HAPPENS!!!!) and one more out til this one is over. Your idea of instant replay is ridiculous and will never be used, and if, by chance of you somehow becoming in charge of something important it is, you can have all of my umpiring equipment and i am done (Or maybe I was just fired because I'm not as good as the machine...)

Nice rant!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

IMO, it's a Cop out. As mentioned Football / Basketball Officials are the best at what they do but Replay is used. IMO baseball should be no different.

Pete Booth

Basketball and Football are very different. And everything in both sports is not reviewable. In basketball they do not review fouls and violations. And if there was replay in baseball, I doubt this play would be reviewed and it was not conclusive either.

Peace