MLB suspends Winters

[t-rex]

That is an interesting quote from Meacham, because it appears to corroborate the author's source in this article:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/mlb...?urn=mlb,46959

Meacham states that, "It was not baiting. Those were just the easiest words to select." Passan states in his article that his source told him that Bradley told Winters not to treat him like a POS, and leaves it to us to guess the rest.

Very interesting. I'm wondering who baited whom.

[spokanelurker]

"I see nothing wrong with hating the lying POS rat first base coach."

Garth, you're an educated, articulate man, and yet you write stuff like this? Shame on you!

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by spokanelurker

"I see nothing wrong with hating the lying POS rat first base coach."

Garth, you're an educated, articulate man, and yet you write stuff like this? Shame on you!

Yep. Shame on me for condemning the coach who told the media that Winters made a racial slur, then changed his story to Winters made a comment that could be taken racially, then changed his story to one in which no racial accusation was made.

Shame on me for condeming the coach who threw Winters under the bus with his lies.

Shame on me for condemning the coach who never retracted his original statement and let Winters twist in the wind for two days hung by the racial accusation.

Yep. Shame on me for referring to him as a lying POS rat coach, and of all places, on an umpire forum.

And good for you, coach, for standing up for him.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Yep. Shame on me for condemning the coach who told the media that Winters made a racial slur, then changed his story to Winters made a comment that could be taken racially, then changed his story to one in which no racial accusation was made.

Shame on me for condeming the coach who threw Winters under the bus with his lies.

Shame on me for condemning the coach who never retracted his original statement and let Winters twist in the wind for two days hung by the racial accusation.

Yep. Shame on me for referring to him as a lying POS rat coach, and of all places, on an umpire forum.

And good for you, coach, for standing up for him.

My God, we agree!

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by t-rex

Very interesting. I'm wondering who baited whom.

The issue of "baiting" strikes me as a red herring. It seems to assume that the baitee is not in control of himself, and (mis)places the responsibility for such lack of control on others who might "say the wrong thing," on purpose or by accident.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by mbyron

The issue of "baiting" strikes me as a red herring. It seems to assume that the baitee is not in control of himself, and (mis)places the responsibility for such lack of control on others who might "say the wrong thing," on purpose or by accident.

Aw, the crux, mbyron, adults or not, accountable or not?

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Aw, the crux, mbyron, adults or not, accountable or not?

Your previous post suggests that Winters should be the one held accountable. This post seems to suggest that all involved should be held accountable. Which is it?

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Your previous post suggests that Winters should be the one held accountable. This post seems to suggest that all involved should be held accountable. Which is it?

Both. Winters should be held to a higher accountability imo. Personally as well as professionally.

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Both. Winters should be held to a higher accountability imo. Personally as well as professionally.

I have always believed that we as sports officials must be held to standards higher than that of the players over whom we reign, for we are the ones entrusted to guard the very integrity of the game. Managers cheat; coaches cheat; players cheat. They all do unseemly things. Umpires must not ever do any of these. If we do, then the game's integrity is lost.

However, what Winters did does not deserve his firing, despite what that nutjob jimpiano says.