Israeli Baseball League

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by fitump56
Why is it that umpires must make political statements by wearing the flag of any country?

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

The same reason you make inane posts in almost every thread you stumble upon. Because they can.

Need help with "Ignore", PM me. If not, back to Kansas, Dorothy.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Originally Posted by fitump56
Why is it that umpires must make political statements by wearing the flag of any country?


Pride can be displayed without wearing a flag; this came into popularity after 9/11 where our patriotic tendencies got so many of us duped by El Busho and the slaughter of American kids in Iraq.

The question is where does non uniform badges, ribbons and paraphenelia end? I say it stops with zero, then there are no arguments.

Do you support AIDS prevention, do you wear a ribbon demonstrating so? Are you for gay rights, got a pinkie for that one? Breast cancer, people with dual citizenships, how about a Iranian flag for Shamir? He's proud of his country.

We have many ways to express our interests.....off the ballfield, thank you.

Ok, here's a perfect example of one of your weirdo posts.

First, pink is for breast cancer awareness, and I proudly display a pink "support the cure" magnet on the back of my car.

Second, I for one American did not all of a sudden become patriotic after 9/11. I proudly served in my country's military, back when it was far more unpopular to do so. I have been waving that Grand Old Flag all my life, and I'm damn proud to be an American where I have the right to do it! There are a whole lot of places where you can't freely express yourself.

Third, what makes you think it's any of your damn business what anyone wears, especially when it comes to supporting our national patriotism? Or breast cancer research? Or Father's Day? The pros wear the pink and blue ribbons when these days roll around. What's wrong with that.

Fourth, who is Shamir, and why is he umpiring baseball in Iran? If you are talking about Shmuelg, he lives in Israel, where they actually play baseball, and you are very insulting.

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by fitump56

If not, back to Kansas, Dorothy.

At least you're unoriginal as well as misinformed. Pull up my profile and click on "Add to ignore list." And I'll take that as a check mate for me.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by fitump56
Originally Posted by fitump56
Why is it that umpires must make political statements by wearing the flag of any country?


Pride can be displayed without wearing a flag; this came into popularity after 9/11 where our patriotic tendencies got so many of us duped by El Busho and the slaughter of American kids in Iraq.

The question is where does non uniform badges, ribbons and paraphenelia end? I say it stops with zero, then there are no arguments.

Do you support AIDS prevention, do you wear a ribbon demonstrating so? Are you for gay rights, got a pinkie for that one? Breast cancer, people with dual citizenships, how about a Iranian flag for Shamir? He's proud of his country.

We have many ways to express our interests.....off the ballfield, thank you.

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

First, pink is for breast cancer awareness, and I proudly display a pink "support the cure" magnet on the back of my car.

Excellent. Proper place for it. Off the ballfield.

Second, I for one American did not all of a sudden become patriotic after 9/11. I proudly served in my country's military, back when it was far more unpopular to do so. I have been waving that Grand Old Flag all my life, and I'm damn proud to be an American where I have the right to do it! There are a whole lot of places where you can't freely express yourself.

We agree, and you do so off the ballfield.

Third, what makes you think it's any of your damn business what anyone wears, especially when it comes to supporting our national patriotism? Or breast cancer research? Or Father's Day? The pros wear the pink and blue ribbons when these days roll around. What's wrong with that.

Asked and answered.

Fourth, who is Shamir, and why is he umpiring baseball in Iran?

I have no idea, perhaps you missed the point that Shamir in my post was not a real individual and as to why not in Iran, why not? Is Iran off limits to baseball?

If you are talking about Shmuelg, he lives in Israel, where they actually play baseball, and you are very insulting.

I insulted no one matter of fact, if you had read my posts rather than going off on some tangent, you would have seen I fully supported Shmuelg use of the Israeli flag under the so-called patriotic right to support your home country.

[Shmuelg]

Will you guys please stop the bickering?

On the flag subject, I was thinking: They teach us that an ump should be "invisible", so should it not behoove us to remove such symbols from our uniform (American or Israeli or Iranian or Bosnian or Upper Voltan flags)?

ShmuelG

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Originally Posted by fitump56
Why is it that umpires must make political statements by wearing the flag of any country?


Pride can be displayed without wearing a flag;

Sometimes it's required by the association. (Yes, I recognize that an umpire could choose to not follow the directive or to not work for the association.)

Keep the rest of the political crap out fo this forum.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by Shmuelg

Will you guys please stop the bickering?

On the flag subject, I was thinking: They teach us that an ump should be "invisible", so should it not behoove us to remove such symbols from our uniform (American or Israeli or Iranian or Bosnian or Upper Voltan flags)?

ShmuelG

One good reason, yes, it draws attention (this invisibility stuff is BS btw); it's flat inappropriate.

[TussAgee11]

Our association requires us to wear a Flag patch on the left sleeve. It does say in our constitution that it is not required, and that there is no penatly for not having it, but most consider it a part of the unifrom.

I believe the basketball association in our area requires the patch on the back of their neck as well.

Do most associations not mandate this?

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

Our association requires us to wear a Flag patch on the left sleeve. It does say in our constitution that it is not required, and that there is no penatly for not having it, but most consider it a part of the unifrom.

I believe the basketball association in our area requires the patch on the back of their neck as well.

Do most associations not mandate this?

Hit and miss, if they require it, a huge mistake IMNSHO, then it is what it is.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by msavakinas

Can I wear my home country's flag when I umpire on the back of my shirts?

not gonna say where I'm from... just a question... can I wear both an american and my home country's? What are your thoughts?

I guess it's become apparent that there are some that believe wearing a patch of the flag of your country is the wrong thing to do. Personally I think it's a BS position to take. Since we all know you can't please everyone, I'd say you should do what you think is right, detractors be damned.


Tim.