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Old Sun Jul 01, 2007, 10:15pm
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Anybody know where the umps were recruited from? The all look to be Americans -one guy has a US flag on the back of his uniform shirt....
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Old Sun Jul 01, 2007, 11:11pm
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The American guys are from SC, NC and FL. There are a few Israelis rotating in as part of the crews as well.

The American flag no the back of all the shirts is the result of the American guys providing the uniforms for all the league officials. Though it isn't a critical matter, the American flags may be changed to Israeli flags, at least for the Israeli umpires.
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The American guys are from SC, NC and FL. There are a few Israelis rotating in as part of the crews as well.

The American flag no the back of all the shirts is the result of the American guys providing the uniforms for all the league officials. Though it isn't a critical matter, the American flags may be changed to Israeli flags, at least for the Israeli umpires.
Why is it that umpires must make political statements by wearing the flag of any country?
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Old Mon Jul 02, 2007, 03:35am
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Why is it that umpires must make political statements by wearing the flag of any country?
The same reason you make inane posts in almost every thread you stumble upon. Because they can.
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The same reason you make inane posts in almost every thread you stumble upon. Because they can.
Ignore list has worked great for me.
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Originally Posted by fitump56
Why is it that umpires must make political statements by wearing the flag of any country?

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The same reason you make inane posts in almost every thread you stumble upon. Because they can.
Need help with "Ignore", PM me. If not, back to Kansas, Dorothy.
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Old Tue Jul 03, 2007, 02:14am
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If not, back to Kansas, Dorothy.
At least you're unoriginal as well as misinformed. Pull up my profile and click on "Add to ignore list." And I'll take that as a check mate for me.
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Why is it that umpires must make political statements by wearing the flag of any country?
Because some take pride in their country.


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Originally Posted by fitump56
Why is it that umpires must make political statements by wearing the flag of any country?

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Because some take pride in their country.


Tim.
Pride can be displayed without wearing a flag; this came into popularity after 9/11

The question is where does non uniform badges, ribbons and paraphenelia end? I say it stops with zero, then there are no arguments.

Do you support AIDS prevention, do you wear a ribbon demonstrating so? Are you for gay rights, got a pinkie for that one? Breast cancer, people with dual citizenships, how about a Iranian flag for Shamir? He's proud of his country.

We have many ways to express our interests.....off the ballfield, thank you.
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Why is it that umpires must make political statements by wearing the flag of any country?


Pride can be displayed without wearing a flag; this came into popularity after 9/11 where our patriotic tendencies got so many of us duped by El Busho and the slaughter of American kids in Iraq.

The question is where does non uniform badges, ribbons and paraphenelia end? I say it stops with zero, then there are no arguments.

Do you support AIDS prevention, do you wear a ribbon demonstrating so? Are you for gay rights, got a pinkie for that one? Breast cancer, people with dual citizenships, how about a Iranian flag for Shamir? He's proud of his country.

We have many ways to express our interests.....off the ballfield, thank you.
Ok, here's a perfect example of one of your weirdo posts.

First, pink is for breast cancer awareness, and I proudly display a pink "support the cure" magnet on the back of my car.

Second, I for one American did not all of a sudden become patriotic after 9/11. I proudly served in my country's military, back when it was far more unpopular to do so. I have been waving that Grand Old Flag all my life, and I'm damn proud to be an American where I have the right to do it! There are a whole lot of places where you can't freely express yourself.

Third, what makes you think it's any of your damn business what anyone wears, especially when it comes to supporting our national patriotism? Or breast cancer research? Or Father's Day? The pros wear the pink and blue ribbons when these days roll around. What's wrong with that.

Fourth, who is Shamir, and why is he umpiring baseball in Iran? If you are talking about Shmuelg, he lives in Israel, where they actually play baseball, and you are very insulting.
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Old Tue Jul 03, 2007, 07:53am
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Why is it that umpires must make political statements by wearing the flag of any country?


Pride can be displayed without wearing a flag;
Sometimes it's required by the association. (Yes, I recognize that an umpire could choose to not follow the directive or to not work for the association.)

Keep the rest of the political crap out fo this forum.
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Old Mon Jul 02, 2007, 08:39am
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Good question.

Personally, I think if the imported Yanks have an American flag on their backs, us locals should have the Israeli flag.

While we are on the subject, consider these interesting points:
  • We (IBL umpires) have been instructed to *tighten* the strike zone so that the upper point is just above the belly button. What do you think?
  • Obstruction is signaled using a "delayed dead ball" sign. Left hand straight out in a fist, and say "obstruction". Have any of you used this signal? (I thought it was only a softball signal)
  • The IBL plays 7 innings (I like this rule, as it keeps the games to about 2 hours or so).
  • A tie game is to be decided by a home-run derby (no extra innings).


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Old Mon Jul 02, 2007, 03:58pm
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Good question.
  • A tie game is to be decided by a home-run derby (no extra innings).
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Please explain how a home run derby would fairly adjudicate individual or team performance?
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Good question.

Personally, I think if the imported Yanks have an American flag on their backs, us locals should have the Israeli flag.
Shmuel
If one, why not the other. Your logic is sound.
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