First Base Coach

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Ok.... no stance (despite what you said above) ... I'll rephrase.

Why are you talking about awards AT ALL with regard to this topic?

I think those who are talking about awards are doing it for "what if" situations, as in "what if the coach had not interfered, and the ball had really gone out of play."

The OP sitch is cut and dried: No base awards.

[PeteBooth]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

With this sitch...what is the official rule though...I could see this happening...wouldn't you kill the play immediately and place the runners where they would've reached had the rat not stopped the ball...OR, if this is the first play by the offense and the runner had not safely reached 1B at the TOT that you'd place the runners on 2B and 3B?? since the coach intentionally stopping the ball qualifies as "dead ball territory"?? Just like if he threw the ball into the stands while making a play on BR at 1B is any of this accurate?? Just asking fellas...I don't have my RB's here w/ me today to consult...then would the FED/OBR rulings be the same in this sitch??

JR talks about "weak interference"

On this play as soon as the coach picked up the ball we have

1. TIME
2. That's interference
3. On most interferences somebody is out.

In the case presented, I would call "weak interference". It depends upon where R2 was at the moment the coach intentionally picked up the ball. If R2 had not yet reached third base I would keep R2 at second and the BR at first.

In addition, if there was anyway possible I am looking to get an out when a coach makes a deliberate move in which he did.

Pete Booth

[RPatrino]

I would love to see the 'glassed over' look on a coaches eyes when trying to explain the concept of 'weak interference' to him. Worth the price of admission in my opinion.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

I would love to see the 'glassed over' look on a coaches eyes when trying to explain the concept of 'weak interference' to him. Worth the price of admission in my opinion.

Describing just about any rule to a coach you get the same glassed over look. So why would this be any different?

I had a college game last year and the 1st base coach got in the way of a pop foul ball. The coach was standing in the box and never moved to get out of the way. The coach claimed he had the right to be there because they were in the box. So if they will argue that simple rule where the rulebook is very clear, what do you think they will do with a situation that is not at all clear in the rulebook?

Peace

[UMP25]

Except in your situation, Rut, if the first base coach's contact was both blatant and avoidable, you have interference. If neither or only one or the other, it's nothing.

[johnnyg08]

fair enough on the award conversation...but aren't what if's part of what makes this MB a good tool for umps...some situations are cut and dry...but is a good opportunity to expand on a sitch with some other angle...but in the smae breath it makes sense to keep on topic w/ OPs