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Old Sat Jun 02, 2007, 12:03pm
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Ejection video

http://www.cnn.com/video/player/play...raves.mgr.wdef

This guy deserves to be banned from all minor league games for 10 years.
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Old Sat Jun 02, 2007, 01:03pm
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What I want to know is this: After seeing himself on video, is this rat embarrased for making an absolute fool out of himself, or is he proud of his childish display?
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Old Sat Jun 02, 2007, 02:51pm
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I was at that game last night, Mississippi Braves/Chattanooga Lookouts. It actually lasted a lot longer than the video, about 20 minutes.
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Old Sat Jun 02, 2007, 02:54pm
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They needed Brian Runge there. He would have shoved the dude off the field like he shoved Piniella today.
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Old Sat Jun 02, 2007, 05:39pm
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I showed this video to my six-year-old daughter and she said "He needs to grow up."

Indeed.
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Old Sat Jun 02, 2007, 09:49pm
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Let's face it, the fans love a good melt down. At the Pro level, it sells tickets.
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Old Sun Jun 03, 2007, 01:26pm
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http://www.cnn.com/video/player/play...raves.mgr.wdef

This guy deserves to be banned from all minor league games for 10 years.
You guys are way too serious. This is the pros, they love this stuff. All about entertainment.


This was absolutely funny stuff - don't know where he got the army stuff and the grenade but my son and I laughed through the entire thing.

Hey, it will probably boost their ticket sales as the fans will have something to looks forward to.

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Old Sun Jun 03, 2007, 01:58pm
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You guys are way too serious. This is the pros, they love this stuff. All about entertainment.


This was absolutely funny stuff - don't know where he got the army stuff and the grenade but my son and I laughed through the entire thing.

Hey, it will probably boost their ticket sales as the fans will have something to looks forward to.
Would you also laugh through 20 minutes of this if you were the plate umpire in this game?
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Old Sun Jun 03, 2007, 02:42pm
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Would you also laugh through 20 minutes of this if you were the plate umpire in this game?
probably not through the whole 20 minutes...but I would for a couple minutes. But that is just me..I really don't take a manager's tirade too seriously. Let em do it...boot em..then laugh about what an idiot he looked like.
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Old Sun Jun 03, 2007, 02:14pm
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You guys are way too serious. This is the pros, they love this stuff. All about entertainment.


This was absolutely funny stuff - don't know where he got the army stuff and the grenade but my son and I laughed through the entire thing.

Hey, it will probably boost their ticket sales as the fans will have something to looks forward to.

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It's organized minor league baseball. It's embarrassing, IMO. If they want to force umpires to tolerate this, fine, but I wouldn't at any game I worked.
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Old Sun Jun 03, 2007, 09:20pm
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It's organized minor league baseball. It's embarrassing, IMO. If they want to force umpires to tolerate this, fine, but I wouldn't at any game I worked.
I have a hard time believing that. If you were getting paid to work the league you would put up with it or quit.

Look yesterday, Jim Leyland was on the field for 6 minutes (Sportscenter timed it) and Lou Pinella was on the field for nearly 5 minutes with his tirade.

Its all about entertainment. We grew up in the same era to know Earl Weaver and his showboating along with Billy Martin.

Certainly I wouldnt' put up with it in my games - I'd call security and get them run, but then I don't work for MLB.

We might not like it, but I agree with John Kruk, this is MLB and the umpires get paid to go along with the entertainment.

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Old Sun Jun 03, 2007, 09:27pm
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I have a hard time believing that. If you were getting paid to work the league you would put up with it or quit.

Look yesterday, Jim Leyland was on the field for 6 minutes (Sportscenter timed it) and Lou Pinella was on the field for nearly 5 minutes with his tirade.

Its all about entertainment. We grew up in the same era to know Earl Weaver and his showboating along with Billy Martin.

Certainly I wouldnt' put up with it in my games - I'd call security and get them run, but then I don't work for MLB.

We might not like it, but I agree with John Kruk, this is MLB and the umpires get paid to go along with the entertainment.

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No. They get paid to handle it. You're confusing MLU game management with "going along with the entertainment." Trust me. They are not "going along with it", nor are them amused by juvenile rants or tantrums by a-holes. I've spoken with umpires who worked games with Earl Weaver in attendance. Not one had a favorable comment.
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Old Sun Jun 03, 2007, 11:21pm
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No. They get paid to handle it. You're confusing MLU game management with "going along with the entertainment." Trust me. They are not "going along with it", nor are them amused by juvenile rants or tantrums by a-holes. I've spoken with umpires who worked games with Earl Weaver in attendance. Not one had a favorable comment.
I've read their books also and the ones that I've read all had very amusing stories to tell about managers who went off the deep end.

I know what you are saying, its no fun to be made fun of, but bottomline is that we as umpires, "that's what we do".

We're big enough and thick skinned enough to do the job in spite of the idiot managers at all levels that we face.

Where would we be as umpires without the stories that we have to tell, and most all of the good stories revolve around ... that's right an ejection of a coach.

Sure we all complain about it, me included, but its who we are.

At least that's the way I see it.

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Old Sun Jun 03, 2007, 11:35pm
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Nothing like a rat.. but did you notice the door he was going into was an add for an institute.... ahhhh mental possibly?? it may be awhile before he gets to see himself.
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Old Mon Jun 04, 2007, 12:09am
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I thought what Phillip Wellman did was absolutely dead wrong. You can list all of the individual things he did (charging the PU, throwing his hat, etc.) but the grenade toss was the ultimate embarrasment. It showed that he'd been thinking about something like this for a while. You never saw Weaver or Martin or in today's time Bobby Cox do something like this. They argue, they cuss, they toss their cap; that's all within the realm of what's accepted (I don't mean it won't earn them an EJ only that it's not out bounds when it comes to a suspension).

My guess is that Schuerholz either fires him or suspends him for a while after this.

Go to the game report on Milb.com. Brent Rice, the PU, got three more Braves players in the game including ex-NCSU pitcher (my alma mater) Joey Devine. Would have liked to have seen those on the footage also.

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