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Old Mon May 07, 2007, 09:21pm
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Gerry Davis kicked a call big time in Yankee-Mariner Game tonight

8th inning 2 outs R1 on first steals second.....

I've seen the replay and the only thing I can think off is that he was blocked by Cano the second baseman and couldn't see the base. However there is one camera angle that was shown from his view point and from the angle shown I can't see how he missed it. To add insult to injury the next batter blooped one to right and the Mariners tie the game then Mariano gives up a dinger in the 9th. Yanks lose,

I bet he is glad it was the last game of the series and not the first.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270507110

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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 09:33am
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8th inning 2 outs R1 on first steals second.....

I've seen the replay and the only thing I can think off is that he was blocked by Cano the second baseman and couldn't see the base. However there is one camera angle that was shown from his view point and from the angle shown I can't see how he missed it. To add insult to injury the next batter blooped one to right and the Mariners tie the game then Mariano gives up a dinger in the 9th. Yanks lose,

I bet he is glad it was the last game of the series and not the first.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270507110

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Hey it happens, however did Gerry Davis give up the dinger in the ninth inning.

Blame the officials which has become a battle cry whenever a team loses.

Amateur baseball comment:

There will be a beautiful day for baseball, A sports complex with many fields. Plenty of participants however, no games being played. Where are the officials?

ESPN etc. have made our jobs as amateur umpires more difficult. The bottom line is: No matter how good an official one is you will not get EVERY call right. It's a fact of life. Also, let's not forget, we do not have SUPER SLO MO to aid us out there.

Bottom Line: The Yanks still had a chance to get out of the inning. F1 did not get the job done and gave up a base hit. Also, one if not the greatest closers in the history of the sport gave up a dinger.

Don't worry Yankee fans Roger is on his way after ge gets his 18 holes in

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Old Thu May 10, 2007, 12:37pm
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Speaking of blown calls

Did anyone see the 15 inning Cubs/Pirates game the other night?

Runner on 1st and 3rd sinking line drive to left, U4 goes out for catch/no catch, U3 heads toward 3rd anticipating R1 going 1st to 3rd, instead R1 hesitates and the throw comes to 2nd behind R1. U3 is still running back to 2nd in infield grass when the tag is made. he's in terrible position and on the move, never makes a signal and it looks like he glances toward U2(never had a wide enough angle to see where U2 was) to see if he was going to make a call.
It certainly appeared to be an out but the call was safe.

I don't know 4 man mechanics, but it seems to me that something was blown here.
Once U4 went out did U3 have R1 at 2nd and 3rd? If so he just overcommitted to third. If not, I'm assuming U2 should have rotated to 2nd.
I'm curious to know the rotation in this situation.
Can anyone help?
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Old Thu May 10, 2007, 12:41pm
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The PU miscalled a play at the plate last night in the Tigers/Mariners game as well. It just goes to show that we are all human.
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Old Thu May 10, 2007, 01:18pm
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Did anyone see the 15 inning Cubs/Pirates game the other night?

Runner on 1st and 3rd sinking line drive to left, U4 goes out for catch/no catch, U3 heads toward 3rd anticipating R1 going 1st to 3rd, instead R1 hesitates and the throw comes to 2nd behind R1. U3 is still running back to 2nd in infield grass when the tag is made. he's in terrible position and on the move, never makes a signal and it looks like he glances toward U2(never had a wide enough angle to see where U2 was) to see if he was going to make a call.
It certainly appeared to be an out but the call was safe.

I don't know 4 man mechanics, but it seems to me that something was blown here.
Once U4 went out did U3 have R1 at 2nd and 3rd? If so he just overcommitted to third. If not, I'm assuming U2 should have rotated to 2nd.
I'm curious to know the rotation in this situation.
Can anyone help?
Under CCA mechanics, if U3 goes out and the ball drops, then it's a standard three-person rotation on this play. UIC rotates to third, U2 has R1 at second, U1 has BR touching third and rotates home when R1 commits to third.

Pro mechanics might be different.
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Old Thu May 10, 2007, 01:28pm
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Under CCA mechanics, if U3 goes out and the ball drops, then it's a standard three-person rotation on this play. UIC rotates to third, U2 has R1 at second, U1 has BR touching third and rotates home when R1 commits to third.

Pro mechanics might be different.
Sorry, I mis labeled the umps.
In this situation, U2 moved to third when U3 went out, you could see it in the replay. He then was running back to 2nd when the throw came in behind the runner. Something seemed out of whack. If UIC went to third, U2 clearly forgot his mechanics.
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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 12:01am
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Gerry was slow to get position & must have been straight lined. One of the hazards of a four umpire crew with U2 on the 1B side (And right on the grass/dirt edge) is having that happen if one is a step or two slow into the cutout.
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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 01:23am
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An umpire kicked a call. SHOCKING!

I'm sure he bought the first round after the game, and there's always tomorrow.
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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 01:28am
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Hmmm,

I kicked a call in the game I did Sunday evening. Didn't feel very good about having done so.

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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 01:40am
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We all kick calls every now and then. It is called being human. I am sure that was not the first call he missed and certainly will not be the last either.

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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 05:07am
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We all kick calls every now and then. It is called being human. I am sure that was not the first call he missed and certainly will not be the last either.
And nobody will feel worse than him either when he finds out that he missed it.
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Old Thu May 10, 2007, 08:08pm
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An umpire kicked a call. SHOCKING!

I'm sure he bought the first round after the game, and there's always tomorrow.
I made the worst call I've ever made at a play which wasn't even close at first base. The kid was out by a step and I called him safe. The game was a blowout, so I didn't catch too much lip. My partner knew I knew I made a mistake. With a bid smile, he asked me, "Was that your nephew running to first base!"
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