Does he stay or does he go?

[Ump29]

Excuse my ignorance (from Canada) but don't know FED rules. Why did you call "Time. Baulk ....." ? I would have called "Baulk" and let play play out.

[Toadman15241]

Originally Posted by Ump29

Excuse my ignorance (from Canada) but don't know FED rules. Why did you call "Time. Baulk ....." ? I would have called "Baulk" and let play play out.

Because FED has a stupid rule that if the pitcher balks, the ball becomes dead.

[Ump29]

Thanks. Now I know.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Ump29

Excuse my ignorance (from Canada) but don't know FED rules. Why did you call "Time. Baulk ....." ? I would have called "Baulk" and let play play out.

I didn't call "Time. Baulk." I called "Time. Balk." because the ball is dead on a balk in games played under NFHS rules just as it used to be under OBR.

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Here's how it played out in real time. I was BU.

"You can't make that call from there." ...I ignored him.

"You can't make that call in two man mechanics!" ...I looked over towards the dugout to determine which coach was the moron of the moment and just as I identified him as the assistant, he said:

"I know your mechanics better than you do!!" Now it was my turn:

"Time! (pointing with my left hand) Coach...(signalling the ejection with my right) it's time for you to go."

I would have handled it the same. The first 2 i would have let go as you did. When he made that a-hole comment, he's done.

[David B]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Here's how it played out in real time. I was BU.

"You can't make that call from there." ...I ignored him.

"You can't make that call in two man mechanics!" ...I looked over towards the dugout to determine which coach was the moron of the moment and just as I identified him as the assistant, he said:

"I know your mechanics better than you do!!" Now it was my turn:

"Time! (pointing with my left hand) Coach...(signalling the ejection with my right) it's time for you to go."

Great mechanics - love it

Thanks
David

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by UmpireBob

I don't mind a coach popping off once due to frustration, or just to communicate his disapproval of the call. Past that, "I've heard you coach, and I understand what you're saying, but we're moving on now." If he continues to pop off, he's gone.

Bob

Bob, you seriously allow assistant coaches to do this ?

My answer to the question ? AMF.

[TussAgee11]

How quickly did these 3 statements come? In succession? Or was he just trying his best to get recognized?

If they were in succession, I'm having a talk with the head coach.

If there was any pause in between any of them, well I'm going to try to have a talk with the manager after the 2nd one, but if he pops the third comment before I get to discuss "the lineup" with the manager... its...

BOOM!

(just kidding about the boom, i don't advise you say that LOL)

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by DG

This is a trick question, right?

Nope. I knew there would be those who would "try to keep him in the game" and choose to take this from an assistant coach. I have seen umpires who accept being loudly shown-up by coaches yelling across the diamond about judgment calls. I am embarrassed for them.

In Washington the online FED clinic emphasised getting control of assistant coaches. It explained, again, that only the head coach is given the right to discuss issues with the umpires and that assistant coaches would be ejected if they forgot this.

Coaches are required to take our on line clinic and pass a short quiz that accompanies it. They must have problems retaining what they have learned beyond the 40 minute clinic.

[PeteBooth]

"You can't make that call from there." (Loud enough for BU and both dugouts to hear)

Garth it's too bad you didn't know right off the get go that it was the assistant coach uttering these statements otherwise you could have had some fun with this one.

Your right I can't make that call from there Let's try this one

See ya have a nice day or something along those lines.

Pete Booth

[DG]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

Garth it's too bad you didn't know right off the get go that it was the assistant coach uttering these statements otherwise you could have had some fun with this one.

Your right I can't make that call from there Let's try this one

See ya have a nice day or something along those lines.

Pete Booth

Oh yeah, we could have a lot of fun.

Assistant Coach - "You can't make that call from there."
Umpire - "This is where I'm standing so it's the only place I can make the call from"

Assistant Coach - "You can't make that call in two man mechanics!"
Umpire - "Two is all we have and they told us to make the calls."

Assistant Coach - "I know your mechanics better than you do!!"
Umpire - "Not quite because in my mechanics this is where you get tossed."

But it would be better to just let him rant and then toss him and nobody will think of you poorly, and will think of him as a fool.

[johnnyg08]

I never talk to an assistant...never, never, never. they get ignored more than the dumb fan who screams incorrect rules from the stands...