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Old Thu Feb 22, 2007, 01:55am
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Dammit, I'm only on the 13th again.....

*Hustles towards rulebook to read it again*
I have copies of the OBR, PBUC blue and red handbooks, CCA Mechanics, NCAA Rulebook, FED Rulebook and Casebook in the family room, bathroom, bedroom, at school and in my equipment bag. Additionally, I keep a copy of the JEA in my family room. I don't stop re-reading them until August.
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Old Thu Feb 22, 2007, 05:50pm
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JEA? Don't think I've ever heard of that.
At this point in your career, it's a nonessential. Read more of less.
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Old Thu Feb 22, 2007, 06:22pm
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Not sure what that means but yes sir!
What I am suggesting is that your posts to this point do not indicate you have the fundamental understanding of the rules and mechanics. Your time would be better spent improving that situation rather than on reading peripheral books.
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Old Fri Feb 23, 2007, 02:13am
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Ah! I see. Very well then. As you wish.

(Sigh)

1. I've raised two teenagers. I don't need to raise another or deal with attitude.

2. Why do you choose to act like a punk when people try to help you? No wonder most who have stopped trying to help have not "come back."

Maybe three or four times since 1996, when I first became involved in sports part of the internet, have I been goaded into laying out my resume. I won't do that here. What I do dare to brag about is this: I am a damn good teacher. I am a damn good trainer of young and otherwise inexperienced umpires. Young men whom I have mentored are now working varsity and College level baseball. Two have gone to proschool, one to Harry's and one to Jim's. Both were honor graduates.

I have a good eye for the potential and attitude it takes to be a good umpire. Despite verbally slapping some rookies upside the head, I have the patience to come back to offer to help and see if they demonstrate any ability to learn.

I do not, however, waste my time on punks with attitude.

Have a great life.
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Old Fri Feb 23, 2007, 11:08am
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BI do not, however, waste my time on punks with attitude.
You just did.
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Old Fri Feb 23, 2007, 04:02pm
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(Sigh)

1. I've raised two teenagers. I don't need to raise another or deal with attitude.

2. Why do you choose to act like a punk when people try to help you? No wonder most who have stopped trying to help have not "come back."

Maybe three or four times since 1996, when I first became involved in sports part of the internet, have I been goaded into laying out my resume. I won't do that here. What I do dare to brag about is this: I am a damn good teacher. I am a damn good trainer of young and otherwise inexperienced umpires. Young men whom I have mentored are now working varsity and College level baseball. Two have gone to proschool, one to Harry's and one to Jim's. Both were honor graduates.

I have a good eye for the potential and attitude it takes to be a good umpire. Despite verbally slapping some rookies upside the head, I have the patience to come back to offer to help and see if they demonstrate any ability to learn.

I do not, however, waste my time on punks with attitude.

Have a great life.
Is it possible you're misinterpreting the kid's response? It sure didn't strike me as dripping with attitude or disrespect.

If there's more going on than I'm aware of, please disregard, but on the posts I read, I couldn't really logically follow the trajectory of the conversation.
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Old Thu Feb 22, 2007, 06:13pm
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I would like to get my hands on some good mechanics/positioning manuals. I've got "The Official Rules of Baseball", but that cost me an extra 40 bucks just to get it shipped to Canada (they do a great job at hiding this extra cost until you've already paid it). Sandiego Steve was nice enough to provide me with lots of rules interpretations, and I'm hoping to add to that with some mechanics and positioning manuals. Any suggestions?
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Old Thu Feb 22, 2007, 08:03pm
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I would like to get my hands on some good mechanics/positioning manuals. I've got "The Official Rules of Baseball", but that cost me an extra 40 bucks just to get it shipped to Canada (they do a great job at hiding this extra cost until you've already paid it). Sandiego Steve was nice enough to provide me with lots of rules interpretations, and I'm hoping to add to that with some mechanics and positioning manuals. Any suggestions?
You can read the rules for free at:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info...s/foreword.jsp

Some good mechanics powerpoints here:

http://www.ihsa.org/education/index.htm
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Old Thu Feb 22, 2007, 10:29pm
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You can read the rules for free at:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info...s/foreword.jsp

Some good mechanics powerpoints here:

http://www.ihsa.org/education/index.htm
They don't have the latest changes on line yet.
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Old Fri Feb 23, 2007, 02:41am
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They don't have the latest changes on line yet.
Rich,

All the 2006 rule changes are there, just missing the case book info found in the printed books.

Updates for 2007:

1. All 23 changes now apply to MLB (Only MiLB in '06)

2. In MLB, areas that mention league president mean Comm. of Baseball

3. Any reference to "he, him or his"" is deemed a reference to "she, her or hers" when person is female.

4. Automatic fines/suspensions do not apply to MLB (Up to the Comm).

5. Rule 6.09(b) casebook comment that adds "Lingers at home plate"

6. Rule 1.15(a) case book comment that white piping is allowed on pitchers glove as long as it's not distracting in umpires judgement

I would post the entire MLB memo (Dated Jan 2, 2007) but it's 16 pages or so in total. I can e-mail to those in need - just PM me.
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Old Fri Feb 23, 2007, 05:41pm
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Rich,

All the 2006 rule changes are there, just missing the case book info found in the printed books.

Updates for 2007:

1. All 23 changes now apply to MLB (Only MiLB in '06)

2. In MLB, areas that mention league president mean Comm. of Baseball

3. Any reference to "he, him or his"" is deemed a reference to "she, her or hers" when person is female.

4. Automatic fines/suspensions do not apply to MLB (Up to the Comm).

5. Rule 6.09(b) casebook comment that adds "Lingers at home plate"

6. Rule 1.15(a) case book comment that white piping is allowed on pitchers glove as long as it's not distracting in umpires judgement

I would post the entire MLB memo (Dated Jan 2, 2007) but it's 16 pages or so in total. I can e-mail to those in need - just PM me.

Like I said, the latest changes aren't on line yet.

More 2007 changes:

7.08 (a)(1) now has "his baseline" instead of "direct line between bases" and defines "his baseline"

6.05(k) now allows a runner to exit the three foot lane in the immediate vicinity of first bas in order to touch the base. 7.09 (k) which was redundant has been eliminated.

The press release on the latest changes are on line.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releas...=.jsp&c_id=mlb
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Old Fri Feb 23, 2007, 06:49pm
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GarthB:

I have never had any problems with boyinblue. I don't understand this "attitude" of his that you speak of. Looks to me like he's picking up some tips from the veterans, and you're not making that a very pleasant task. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with giving a hot-headed newbie a kick in the butt now and then, but boyinblue is not the hothead that you are making him out to be. I probably am, but he isn't.
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