Can "FOUL" be made "FAIR"?

[Uncle George]

[QUOTE=SanDiegoSteve]First of all, be very cautious when using Uncle George as a rules or mechanics reference, because he is often wrong.

SanDiegoSteve, here's what I posted:

"It's the PU call to the bag, past the bag its the BU call. In this case, if ball hit's bag, PU has call."

No where did I say I was right! In this situation, the PU has the ball to the bag! In a two person crew, with the BU in the "C" position, the PU has the ball all the way down the line! Is the right or wrong?

You know Steve, when other umps read this forms, I hope they don't take the information word for word. For me, I go the rule book, case book and umpires manual to "get it right"!

After every game when I'm working with a seasoned ump, I ask for crituque, whether it's bad or good. You learn from your mistakes. If I do write something wrong, let me know but don't degrad me. You don't make mistakes? Belittling umps on this forms dosen't help ther confidence, it just tears it down. I apologize that I'm not as smart as you.

Uncle George

[mcrowder]

[QUOTE=Uncle George]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

First of all, be very cautious when using Uncle George as a rules or mechanics reference, because he is often wrong.

SanDiegoSteve, here's what I posted:

"It's the PU call to the bag, past the bag its the BU call. In this case, if ball hit's bag, PU has call."

No where did I say I was right! In this situation, the PU has the ball to the bag! In a two person crew, with the BU in the "C" position, the PU has the ball all the way down the line! Is the right or wrong?

You know Steve, when other umps read this forms, I hope they don't take the information word for word. For me, I go the rule book, case book and umpires manual to "get it right"!

After every game when I'm working with a seasoned ump, I ask for crituque, whether it's bad or good. You learn from your mistakes. If I do write something wrong, let me know but don't degrad me. You don't make mistakes? Belittling umps on this forms dosen't help ther confidence, it just tears it down. I apologize that I'm not as smart as you.

Uncle George

Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. Nice try, but you really can't retract yourself out of this one. Pertaining to this actual thread and the first post, you were quite simply wrong. Just say, "Ooops, my bad" and move on. Trying to explain that in an alternate universe where the topic at hand was different, you might be right in an isolated case just makes you look foolish.

[TussAgee11]

The only time I'm ever turning Foul to Fair is when a) something so blatent has happened such as a rules mishap or b) if I have some sort of seizure and say foul ball on a pop up in foul territory before the ball hits the ground and a fielder catches it (which actually I think is i a FED casebook somewhere).

Regards, and thinking about living the dream of minor league ball after I graduate from college...

Tuss

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by boyinblue24

Oh yeah! I'm always tryin to read anything on umpiring, that is when I can get a chance from school. Plate Work, Base Work, & Smart Baseball Umpiring how to get better every game, The Men In Blue & of course the orb, articles, & casebooks! More, more, & more!

Quality, not quantity, Littleboyblue. Read the rulebook and the appropriate mechanics book. Then read them again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

Then read them again.

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Quality, not quantity, Littleboyblue. Read the rulebook and the appropriate mechanics book. Then read them again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

Then read them again.

Dammit, I'm only on the 13th again.....

*Hustles towards rulebook to read it again*

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

Dammit, I'm only on the 13th again.....

*Hustles towards rulebook to read it again*

I have copies of the OBR, PBUC blue and red handbooks, CCA Mechanics, NCAA Rulebook, FED Rulebook and Casebook in the family room, bathroom, bedroom, at school and in my equipment bag. Additionally, I keep a copy of the JEA in my family room. I don't stop re-reading them until August.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by boyinblue24

JEA? Don't think I've ever heard of that.

At this point in your career, it's a nonessential. Read more of less.

[canadaump6]

I would like to get my hands on some good mechanics/positioning manuals. I've got "The Official Rules of Baseball", but that cost me an extra 40 bucks just to get it shipped to Canada (they do a great job at hiding this extra cost until you've already paid it). Sandiego Steve was nice enough to provide me with lots of rules interpretations, and I'm hoping to add to that with some mechanics and positioning manuals. Any suggestions?