Flag placement

[btdt]

Was thinking of putting American flag on my new shirts and jackets. Anyone know the edict and placement? Association doesn’t seem to have a policy.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by btdt

Was thinking of putting American flag on my new shirts and jackets. Anyone know the edict and placement? Association doesn’t seem to have a policy.

It varies by association / state.

[LLPA13UmpDan]

if you have no standard then...

I would put them on the back of the collar, looks much more professional then on the sleeve. I believe that is more commly accepted, as MiLB does it that way, and so did MLB back in 2001.

Just my $.02

[tjones1]

If you put them on a sleeve, make sure the flag is facing in the correct direction.

[TussAgee11]

Our association mandates them (well not really mandates, because of the 1st amendment, you have the right not to wear it, but everybody does since its widely accepted) 2 inches down on the left sleeve. We use the flags that have yellow around them, make sure wherever you put it on that you use the color thread of the patch, and not the shirt.

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by tjones1

If you put them on a sleeve, make sure the flag is facing in the correct direction.

ive always wondered...what is the correct direction? im on the younger end of the user-base of the site and have never really heard.

i believe the convention is to have stars forward, so on the right sleeve you would want to have the stars on right when looking at it, and on the left when looking at a flag patch on the left sleeve. could be wrong though, and im not sure where i got that from.


also, i dont wear any flag patches on my shirts. if my association made it a requirement, id get one in the required area. if i felt like getting flags and it fit into our association guidelines but placement was up to me, id go in the middle of the upper back, like MiLB does.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

i believe the convention is to have stars forward,

That's correct.

To be safe, the original poster could put one on each sleeve, one on the pocket ond one on the back under the collar.

[bbsbvb83]

Originally Posted by btdt

Was thinking of putting American flag on my new shirts and jackets. Anyone know the edict and placement? Association doesn’t seem to have a policy.

As a general rule, the union (stars with blue background) of your flag patch should be worn closest to your heart, if you choose to wear one. That being said, it is technically improper to wear a US flag patch on an umpire's shirt as it is a violation of the United States Flag Code. If you wear one anyway, the best place is probably on the front of your shirt, with the union closest to your sternum. It is also okay to wear it on one shirt sleve, a couple of inches from the shoulder seam. If you chose to do this, make sure the union is pointing forward. The picture of the umpire with the black ball bag demonstrates how not to wear a flag patch. (You may have to do a little searching for the proper patch if you want to wear it on your right sleve.) The patch should NEVER be worn on the back of the shirt. (I was very disappointed with the MLB's patch placement following 9-11.) When in doubt as to proper flag display, contact a representative of your local VFW or American Legion.

[AlabamaBlue]

Originally Posted by bbsbvb83

If you wear one anyway, the best place is probably on the front of your shirt, with the union closest to your sternum.

If it's worn on the front of your shirt the union should always be to the left as you're looking at the flag. The only time the union goes to the right is on sleeves and vehicles/aircraft.

[bbsbvb83]

Originally Posted by AlabamaBlue

If it's worn on the front of your shirt the union should always be to the left as you're looking at the flag. The only time the union goes to the right is on sleeves and vehicles/aircraft.

Correct. That is what I said. The union (stars) should be closest to the sternum (center of the chest).

[SAump]

Originally Posted by bbsbvb83

... The patch should NEVER be worn on the back of the shirt. (I was very disappointed with the MLB's patch placement following 9-11.) When in doubt as to proper flag display, contact a representative of your local VFW or American Legion.

Many are disappointed with the MILBumps' ratty behavior on this website. Add this error to the top of a very long list of well documented misconduct last spring.

[BBUMP99]

I think that we (athletes and officials) get away with wearing flags because we can say that we are wearing replicas of the flag, and not actual flags, since they are usually on a one-sided patch...that is my guess...

[greymule]

The ECAC prescribes "no flags" for its umpires. I don't know whether this is purely for cosmetic considerations or out of fear of offending somebody who hates America. (Before I knew this, I wore a flag on my left sleeve and nobody ever said anything. Interestingly, I find that many ECAC officials are unaware of the proscription.)

A flag on the cap is part of the ASA and NSA uniform. Both flags are on the left side of the cap, with the blue field on the left. The NSA flag is wavy, though, while the ASA flag is straight.

In last year's NJ Babe Ruth tournament, they decorated the fences with bunting, but they had the red on the outside and the blue inside, the opposite of customary display.

I live near the college town of Princeton, NJ, and deliberately display flag decals on my car just to annoy the many lefties in the area (and I don't mean southpaws).

In at least one city, men whose culture requires the wearing of a turban are claiming that the rule that police officers must wear a cap discriminates against them. If these guys become umpires, All-Star is going to have to figure out how to make a combination turban-helmet.

[kylejt]

Perhaps Honigs will make a patent leather turbin.

[Dave Hensley]

Originally Posted by greymule

I live near the college town of Princeton, NJ, and deliberately display flag decals on my car just to annoy the many lefties in the area (and I don't mean southpaws).

This offends me, because it disrespects people like my nephew, whose Navy pilot's callsign was "Lefty" and who is currently in Baghdad, Iraq, on loan to the U.S. Army because of a shortage of officers, fighting to defend your right to call him unpatriotic because your political views disagree with his.