Damon ejection with audio

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Tim:

I really doubt it . . . obviously I don't know . . .

BUT:

Bill was one of my KEY instructors at the Golden State Camp:

In MLB baseball and in late season I think that small things set people off.

While you could be correct, my experience tells me we "could" have heard the whole thing.

Regards,

After listening to this yesterday a few times and then again tody, I believe you're right Tee.

A righteous ejection.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I watched the video with my two sons (13 and 16, both baseball players), and we all agreed that the Yankee batter did not check his swing. I thought that the PU did a very good job of letting the batter, catcher, and pitcher that the batter did not check his swing and that he had a swinging strike three. While we could not hear what Damon said, the PU umpire's initial response led us to believe the Damon asked whether the third strike was a called strike or a swinging strike. After that we still really couldn't hear was Damon said next, but it is my humble opinion that the PU then baited Damon. As a H.S. and college basketball official for over 35 years (and a H.S. baseball and fastpitch softball umpire for 14 years) I would definitely classify the PU's comments about getting into his business and asking Damon if he wanted to argue balls and strikes as baiting. I know that the MLB is a different animal that H.S. and college sports, but I would have put up the stop sign and informed the batter that balls and strikes were not going to be discussed and then let the player decided if he wants to press the issue.

MTD, Sr.

[briancurtin]

for some reason the audio isnt working for me. has anyone seen this same clip on any other websites?

[Tim C]

abua.com or mlb.com

[Tim C]

Mark, with all due respect, even with your resume you've NEVER worked MLB.

Bill was perfect in what he did at his level.

Regards,

[orangeump]

yeah hey guys, orangy back real fast.

There was an article about this situation in which Miller says Torre yelled something and then Damon jumped on him for it.

Thats why he asked if he wanted to get in on his biz-nass.

Back off Miller, he is a bad dude.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Mark, with all due respect, even with your resume you've NEVER worked MLB.

Bill was perfect in what he did at his level.

Regards,

I admitted that I have never worked MLB, but I really beleive that it was not a good example of what to do at the H.S. level, still I would hope that officials at the MLB level would have exhibited better game management skills that what that video showed. I think baiting a player or coach at any level is poor game management.

MTD, Sr.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I admitted that I have never worked MLB, but I really beleive that it was not a good example of what to do at the H.S. level, still I would hope that officials at the MLB level would have exhibited better game management skills that what that video showed. I think baiting a player or coach at any level is poor game management.

MTD, Sr.

Mark, with all due respect, you need to listen again, or perhaps get better speakers.

Miller warned Damon TWICE, before asking him if he want in his "bizness". That's one warning more than many players get.

Damon was not baited. He was stupid.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I admitted that I have never worked MLB, but I really beleive that it was not a good example of what to do at the H.S. level, still I would hope that officials at the MLB level would have exhibited better game management skills that what that video showed. I think baiting a player or coach at any level is poor game management.

MTD, Sr.

I don't think anyone is saying that this is a good example of what to do at the HS level. It is the way it is handled at the big league level, and I would say that Torre was responsible for Damon getting run, because he should have told Damon to shut up after the first warning.

[Kaliix]

Your right, it was not a good example of how to do it at the H.S. level. He should have warned him twice to stop arguing and then just ejected him.

It isn't like he didn't acknowledge what Damon was saying and even gave a quick explanation of what he saw. If after the explanation, Damon continued to argue and then was told twice to stop, he was asking to be ejected.

But whatever happened, he certainly was not baited. Damon ran himself by continuing to press the issue.

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I admitted that I have never worked MLB, but I really beleive that it was not a good example of what to do at the H.S. level, still I would hope that officials at the MLB level would have exhibited better game management skills that what that video showed. I think baiting a player or coach at any level is poor game management.

MTD, Sr.

[David B]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I admitted that I have never worked MLB, but I really beleive that it was not a good example of what to do at the H.S. level, still I would hope that officials at the MLB level would have exhibited better game management skills that what that video showed. I think baiting a player or coach at any level is poor game management.

MTD, Sr.

Being at the HS level would not even matter in this type of play. In HS I'm definitely NEVER going to allow an on-deck batter to say anything to me.

Players in HS are there to play - there would be a look (from me) and then there would be a conference (with me and the coach),

then there would be a new on-deck batter ....

thanks
David