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Old Tue Aug 29, 2006, 01:02am
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Exclamation MLB foul ball overturned.....

.....and you guys are still talking about Little League?!

If a crew did this in Williamsport, you guys would be having a field day. Admit it.


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Old Tue Aug 29, 2006, 01:07am
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Could you describe the situation?

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Old Tue Aug 29, 2006, 01:36am
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Could you describe the situation?

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From MLB.com............


"Then came the controversy. David Wright, who was hitless in his last 25 at-bats against lefties entering Monday's game, hit a chopper down the third-base line that third-base umpire Randy Marsh initially called foul. After a conference among the umpires, home-plate umpire Angel Hernandez signaled that the ball had struck the bag and was fair. Beltran scored, Wright had broken his streak with the single and, after Phillies manager Charlie Manuel was ejected for arguing, the Mets were on their way to another win."


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Old Tue Aug 29, 2006, 01:40am
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Well they got it right, right?

I thought this is what everyone wants. They have to get it right under all circumstances.

Is this not what Windy and many others have suggested is the right thing to do?

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Old Tue Aug 29, 2006, 01:50am
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I don't know if there were other runners, Jeff. If there weren't I would agree that they did the right thing. If there were I'm not so sure there's a precedent for reversing the call of "foul" in this instance. It may very well have deprived the defense of an opportunity to get an out.


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Old Tue Aug 29, 2006, 02:25am
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I do not know how you can overturn a foul ball call. The defense could have still made an out and the runners could have advanced to more bases.

Oh well. They got it right I guess.

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Old Tue Aug 29, 2006, 02:14pm
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Well they got it right, right?


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Not from the replays I've seen.

Angel F-up again.
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Old Tue Aug 29, 2006, 02:42pm
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I could have sworn that I have read on this boarh if an umpire (1) has gone to a pro school and (2) is union he is infallible.
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Not from the replays I've seen.

Angel F-up again.
Garth, it's OBVIOUS that the ball hit the bag. From any angle, but especially from the home plate angle.
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Old Tue Aug 29, 2006, 10:44pm
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Not from the replays I've seen.

Angel F-up again.

I don't care what the replays say...Angel F-ed up again by overruling the foul ball call. I don't care if the ball hit SECOND base.

Now, here's the real question: what will come first? MLB promulgating a rule actually addressing this issue like NFHS did, or MLB getting rid of Angel?

BTW, Angel was U3 on the Pirates/Cubs game tonight. Dusty argued a fair/foul call w/ him in the 11th inning, although it appears that Angel got it right....shocker.
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Old Tue Aug 29, 2006, 09:55am
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I think that the only reason it was changed is because after the ball hit the bag, it went way into foul ground and there was no way in hell that the defense was going to get an out. ........ I hear ya...when you call foul...it's foul. The Indians skipper knew it hit the bag, but of coarse he is gonna get ran just on principle. With R1 and R3, the call didn't get too far away that the R1 would have made it to 3rd and the BR to 2nd. Everyone just moved up 90'. I probually would have changed it too, with those circumstances. Chris
Manuel is with the Phillies now. He hasn't been with the Indians in a few years.

And as a Phillies fan, I wish they'd let Cholly go as soon as possible. He's horrible.
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As a baseball fan, I wish they'd let Angel go as soon as possible...
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