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According to the above definition, I would think that defensive players switching position would not constitute a "substitution." However, a pitcher switching defensive positions is specifically covered by 3.03. |
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I do a lot of 12 - 14 games in my area and the league I usually work for goes by OBR. So this thread really got me thinking because it is quite common for a pitcher to be pulled on the 2nd trip and sent to say right field and the RF comes in to pitch. It is also not unusual for a team to be playing with only 9 or 10 players due to vacations. So if I understand this correctly, a pitcher can be pulled on the 1st trip, sent to another defensive position and come back the next inning and pitch again. But if he is pulled on the 2nd trip, then he is completely out of the game, and if that drops them down to 8 players, we walk off the field and declare a forfeit (our league rules require 9 defensive players at all times). Wow, that is certainly going to be news to a lot of LL coaches in this league! |
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1. No, it doesn't. 2. The hands not being part of the bat is news to a lot of LL coaches.
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And, I seem to recall (but my memory isn't what it used to be; then again, it never was) that Roder (or someone) was specifically asked about the play at hand and indicated that F1 couldn't be moved from the mound to another position after the first visit (because the "move" was a vist, and the second visit requires removal from the game under pure OBR). |
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Babe Ruth has this as well...
I got hold of a Babe Ruth book, and their rule say that on the second trip in the same inning, the pitcher is removed from the mound only. So just like LL (except its on the second visit), the pulled pitcher can stay in the game.
Now a problem may definately surface during an American Legion contest, as well as many of the Adult wood bat leagues. |
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