Plate Umpire ejects himself in 3rd inning

[Carbide Keyman]

Originally Posted by Sky Popper

As to the players, the ump should warn and then start ejecting them. If they don't leave, the ump can call a forfeit under 4.15(f).

As to the fans, different leagues have different procedures. Many allow the umpire to order an unruly fan to leave. In any event, there should be a tournament official present to deal with inappropriate fan behavior.

As you all have noted, umpires need training and experience to deal with these situations.

Thanks,

Dennis

The better you are, the more training and experience you have, the less likely these situations will rear their ugly heads. Good umpires generally have good games.




Doug

[JRutledge]

This sounds like a situation where an umpire probably worked too many games over long period of time. This is why I hardly work summer baseball at all and when really nothing counts the same or gets the same publicity as during the spring time.

Also we do not know the entire situation. We do not know what issues the umpire had to deal with or what the fans were saying to him. He might have had enough and did not care about the consequences. After all we are not talking about the Majors here. He might have been working just for the money and what was taking place was not worth it anymore.

Peace

[aceholleran]

Originally Posted by Carbide Keyman

The better you are, the more training and experience you have, the less likely these situations will rear their ugly heads. Good umpires generally have good games.

Carbide, I hafta differ with you, and also ask, "what is a good game?"

Is it one with no arguments?

One where calls "went both ways?"

One where there are few player and coaching errors?

IMHO, the players dictate the game, and to a lesser degree. coaches. We umps record history.

A "good" official must often jump into the game, especially where unusual plays are concerned. I find myself doing this often.

See my new thread.

Ace

[Carbide Keyman]

Originally Posted by aceholleran

Carbide, I hafta differ with you, and also ask, "what is a good game?"

Is it one with no arguments?

One where calls "went both ways?"

One where there are few player and coaching errors?

IMHO, the players dictate the game, and to a lesser degree. coaches. We umps record history.

A "good" official must often jump into the game, especially where unusual plays are concerned. I find myself doing this often.

See my new thread.

Ace

I still believe that the more skilled and competent an umpire is, the likelihood of an instance that opened this thread is diminished.

And,sometimes no matter how good an umpire is, sh!tstorms will happen. It's inevitable when dealing with the human race.

I have no problem "jumping" in when the situation requires it. But, I'm not into looking for "boogers".

JMHO.




Doug

[BlueLawyer]

I have never left the field (although I was sorely tempted once), but I have said in a basketball game to the home coach, "That drunk a$$hole leaves or I do."

The drunk was in a pair of silver behind-the-back bracelets about 3 minutes later.

Strikes and outs!

[JJ]

Several years ago in an Independant Pro game, former Cub Chico Walker was the head coach in a game in which I was working the plate. We had one of those pitches that rode up and in and hit the bat....or the hand. I called "dead ball" and ruled it a foul ball. The batter did not argue, or even disagree, but here comes Chico. After ultimately REFUSING to let go of the "discussion", he was warned and ejected. I immediately turned away from him and my partner began the "let's go, Chico" process. Chico proceeded to get into it with my partner, who was glad to oblige.
After asking the assistant coach to "assist" (with no results), I walked up to my partner and said "Let's go, Louie", and off we went past the first base dugout down to the umpire room outside the right field foul pole, leaving Chico stewing at home plate. Louie said "This is great - have you ever done this before?". I said no, but it seems appropriate. As we walked by the first base coach he asked "Will you be back?", and we said yes, as soon as Chico leaves. The home team GM showed up at the lockerroom and asked if we forfeited the game, and we said no, we were just waiting for the Chico show to end and then we'd finish up the game.
Once all the reports were in after the whole incident was over with, Chico was fired the next day. Seemed appropriate.
That's the only time I've ever left the field, and it was done as a team with my approving partner. Gotta love this game!