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Old Sun Jul 23, 2006, 01:09am
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I do NOT agree with "if the ball is in the batters box, they shouldn't have to make an attempt" either!!! That is horsecrap umpiring, and horsecrap batting.
so its not horsecrap pitching?

i'll answer that question: it is.


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Batters "taking" a pitch is rampant right now!!! I am not very generous.
you seem awfully generous to pitchers. they make a mistake and you pin it on the batter to do something about it.

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Old Sun Jul 23, 2006, 01:32am
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NCAA rule is that a pitch that hits a batter in the box is 1B award, even if he does not move. I can't remember the last time I saw a MLB batter get hit and not awarded 1B.
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Old Sun Jul 23, 2006, 01:36am
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i cant either
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Old Sun Jul 23, 2006, 02:43am
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I can't remember the last time I saw a MLB batter get hit and not awarded 1B.
That is because the batters have the good sense to move out of the way as best as they can!

This does NOT happen in high school and college ball. Thus, this is why we are talking about this.

In all the AAA games I did this year, I did not see even one batter not attempt to avoid getting hit. I didn't see anything that warranted a second thought!
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Old Sun Jul 23, 2006, 09:12am
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That is because the batters have the good sense to move out of the way as best as they can!

This does NOT happen in high school and college ball. Thus, this is why we are talking about this.

In all the AAA games I did this year, I did not see even one batter not attempt to avoid getting hit. I didn't see anything that warranted a second thought!
In requiring a batter to get out of the way of an inside curveball, you are countermanding most standard coaching that teaches batters to stay in on that pitch - not because they can easily get a free base with an HBP, but because if the curveball does break like it's supposed to, then the pitcher very well may have served one up that can and should be jacked over the left field wall.

If the batter is bailing on that pitch, he's unlikely to be in the lineup next game, and unlikely to make the varsity next year.

If getting HBP were "dangerous," then everyone involved in baseball is guilty of criminal negligence for letting, even encouraging, minor children to participate in a "dangerous" activity. The "danger" of batting is mitigated by requiring batters to wear batting helmets.
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Old Sun Jul 23, 2006, 12:10pm
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That is because the batters have the good sense to move out of the way as best as they can!

This does NOT happen in high school and college ball. Thus, this is why we are talking about this.

In all the AAA games I did this year, I did not see even one batter not attempt to avoid getting hit. I didn't see anything that warranted a second thought!
HS or college players will generally turn their body in such a way to get hit by a hanging curve ball in the box, and of course "appear" to be trying to get out of the way. And I always send them to 1B and never hear anyone complain about it. I saw 3 or 4 of these yesterday. Most of them will try to get out of the way of a fastball in the box.
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