Ejection, ensuing fun, and a couple of questions

[UmpJM]

TwoBits,

Under the "old" 6.02(c), the pitcher was, in fact, required to throw a pitch.

I honestly don't know whether he is required to do so under "new" 6.02(c), but with the new provision that the ball is "dead", it would make sense to me that there is no reason why he would need to and the umpire could simply "declare" a strike, a la FED, without the pitcher actually delivering a pitch.

JMO.

JM

Edited to add: I see that SD Steve has clarified the question while I was composing my speculative reply. Never mind.

[shickenbottom]

Remember, this is an experimental rule for 2006. It is the same as Fed. I don't know if the players union, or owners have voted to officially adopt this rule change, and I've yet to hear or see this being called in any Major or Minor league game. This will create a storm when it does, with a couple of ejections in the process.

The essence is to speed up the game, with batters constantly stepping out of the box. Look at the ritual of N. Garciapara prior to entering the box.

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by shickenbottom

Remember, this is an experimental rule for 2006. It is the same as Fed. I don't know if the players union, or owners have voted to officially adopt this rule change, and I've yet to hear or see this being called in any Major or Minor league game. This will create a storm when it does, with a couple of ejections in the process.

The essence is to speed up the game, with batters constantly stepping out of the box. Look at the ritual of N. Garciapara prior to entering the box.

I think 6.02d is the experimental rule regarding one foot in the box like FED. There is no mention that 6.02c is experimental.

[shickenbottom]

Originally Posted by TwoBits

I think 6.02d is the experimental rule regarding one foot in the box like FED. There is no mention that 6.02c is experimental.

Twobits the whole 6.02d is directly from Fed and the first sentence of 6.02d says it's experimental. Near the bottom of 6.02d is the "No Pitch Strike" for delay of game. Also in 6.02d it references 6.02c as the penalty for violation.

If I remember correctly the directed pitch has been in the rules for quite a few years.

So now OBR has two rules for the delay of game strike call. One is the "Directed Pitch Strike" 6.02c and the "No Pitch Strike" 6.02d. Now, the doosey of a question, which one to enforce? Hmmmm!!!! I believe the intent here from OBR is to have both in play for a year and then phase one out.

The shennanigans by batters should decrease. Batters can be superstitious in the on deck circle, when you get to the plate, just swing the bat.

[TwoBits]

I take that to mean that the penalty for violating 6.02d is the same as violating 6.02c.

Does anybody find it amusing that OBR is quoting FED rules now?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by shickenbottom

Twobits the whole 6.02d is directly from Fed and the first sentence of 6.02d says it's experimental. Near the bottom of 6.02d is the "No Pitch Strike" for delay of game. Also in 6.02d it references 6.02c as the penalty for violation.

If I remember correctly the directed pitch has been in the rules for quite a few years.

So now OBR has two rules for the delay of game strike call. One is the "Directed Pitch Strike" 6.02c and the "No Pitch Strike" 6.02d. Now, the doosey of a question, which one to enforce? Hmmmm!!!! I believe the intent here from OBR is to have both in play for a year and then phase one out.

The shennanigans by batters should decrease. Batters can be superstitious in the on deck circle, when you get to the plate, just swing the bat.

You are misreading 6.02(d). The "No Pitch Strike" is in 6.02(c). This rule is now officially adopted. The 6.02(c) "No Pitch Strike" is in effect for batters refusing to take their position in the box. 6.02(d) is for batters leaving the batter's box and delaying the game. In that case, no pitch is required, and the ball remains alive. In 6.02(c), it is a dead ball.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Well, I guess that with the new 12 second rule, if Nomar doesn't hop back in the box right away, and stop with the batting glove foolishness, the umpire can now just order up a strike. That would lead to a couple of ejections right off the bat.

[beachman]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

... if Nomar doesn't hop back in the box right away, and stop with the batting glove foolishness, ....

He played here in San Diego the other day. He still does the batting glove fetish routine, but it's quick and he gets right in the box. Instead of completely undoing them between every pitch, he just sort of slaps each wrist. A good rule change.

Now if they can just get the women (girl) tennis players to stop SCREECHING every time they hit the ball...