Ok, most misunderstood rule by coaches?

[PeteBooth]

[QUOTE=Dave Hensley]In leagues that use any flavor of a DH rule, coaches routinely butcher it by trying to alter the batting order when subbing for the DH.

Dave, I haven't umpired LL in some time other than help out with All Stars. This year my summer assignor received the contract for some 50 BIG League Games.

IMO, LL Rule 7.14 the Sp Pinch Runner rule has not only given coaches fits but us FED umpires as well. In fact, during our summer meetings, we went over this rule "with a fine tooth comb" because this rule comes up every single game.

In my area, the local BIG League Programs originally used their local Umpires, however games were getting out of control and the over-all quality of umpiring was poor. In fact, BIG League was a non-factor in my area until last year. A new president was appointed and he decided to use our associations umpires. Last year we did about 20 games or so and this year we have 50 regular season games not counting play-offs.

Last year was our associations first year of umpiring BIG LEAGUE, and a game was held up some 20 minutes or so trying to get a clarification about rule 7.14.

Therefore, I would rank LL Rule 7.14 "right up there" as one of the most mis-understood rules ever written.

People talk about Fedlandia, but IMO LL has the most convuluted rules ever written in trying to get more kids playing time. Excluding BIG League in regular season the Batting Order is not "locked" into the same position because one can re-enter in ANY position in the order until you get to tournament time. We can go on and on.

Pete Booth

[Rich Ives]

[QUOTE=PeteBooth]

Originally Posted by Dave Hensley

In leagues that use any flavor of a DH rule, coaches routinely butcher it by trying to alter the batting order when subbing for the DH.

Originally Posted by Dave Hensley

Dave, I haven't umpired LL in some time other than help out with All Stars. This year my summer assignor received the contract for some 50 BIG League Games.

IMO, LL Rule 7.14 the Sp Pinch Runner rule has not only given coaches fits but us FED umpires as well. In fact, during our summer meetings, we went over this rule "with a fine tooth comb" because this rule comes up every single game.



Pete Booth

What's to hard about 7.14?

A special pinch runner (SPR) can be used once per inning.

The SPR has to be a player who isn't in the current lineup.

You can only run for someone once per game.

How complicated is that?

[bluezebra]

"Ok, most misunderstood rule by coaches?"

RULES 1 through 10

Bob

[Carbide Keyman]

[QUOTE=Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

[I]


What's to hard about 7.14?

A special pinch runner (SPR) can be used once per inning.

The SPR has to be a player who isn't in the current lineup.

You can only run for someone once per game.

How complicated is that?

7.14 reads player who has not appeared in the batting order, not who isn't in the current lineup. There is a big difference, especially later in a game.




Doug

[Rich Ives]

[QUOTE=Carbide Keyman]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

7.14 reads player who has not appeared in the batting order, not who isn't in the current lineup. There is a big difference, especially later in a game.




Doug

The rule was changed in 2005 - get a current book.


7.14 -- Once each inning, a team may utilize a player who is not in the batting order as a special pinch-runner for any offensive player. A player may only be removed for a pinch runner one time during a game. The player for whom the pinch-runner runs is not subject to removal from the lineup. If the pinch runner remains in the game as a substitute defensive or offensive player, that player may not be used again as a pinch-runner while in the batting order. However, if removed for another substitute that player or any player not in the lineup, is again eligible to be used as a pinch runner.

[lmathews19]

Most misunderstood rule(s) by coaches:

1. They think the hands are a part of the bat when a batter gets hit there thus making it in play or a foul ball depending on where it ends up.

2. They think the runner has the right to the "base path" when the fielder is in the process of fielding the ball.

3. They think a third to first pick-off is a balk.

4. They think runners have to slide at home plate no matter what, even if the catcher catches the ball 10 feet up the line and tags the kid coming around third out, they say he still has to slide and needs to be objected.

5. They think the players can't touch a player before he touches home plate when he hits a home run.

6. They think if the catcher catches the ball good, it's a strike...no matter if he is set up a foot outside.

Alright, I'm just complaining now so I'll stop.

Luke

[LMan]

Originally Posted by lmathews19

they say he still has to slide and needs to be objected.

I'm with them...I hate to be objectified.

[lmathews19]

Originally Posted by LMan

I'm with them...I hate to be objectified.

I would like to know your rationale for this. It's impossible for this to happen. Many rules state that the players have to slide to avoid contact, but a mandatory slide rule at home plate is ridiculous if you ask me. And in this sitch, sliding halfway down the line 10-15 feet from the plate just to avoid getting ejected borders the line of a stupid rule.

[Carbide Keyman]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

The rule was changed in 2005 - get a current book.[/I]

First, thank you for the correction. Second, I'm glad I was able to make you feel so superior with your little editorial comment. You must feel 10 feet tall now !

Doug

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Carbide Keyman

First, thank you for the correction. Second, I'm glad I was able to make you feel so superior with your little editorial comment. You must feel 10 feet tall now !

Doug

And I'm so happy that you were smug enough to post an outdated rule to show me I was wrong.

There are rules changes every year. You really need to keep up with them.

[Carbide Keyman]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

And I'm so happy that you were smug enough to post an outdated rule to show me I was wrong.

There are rules changes every year. You really need to keep up with them.

And I'm so happy that you get to continue to prove what a pompous *** you are. I'm glad you are never, ever wrong.


Doug