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Old Sat Jun 10, 2006, 08:30am
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BR Obstruction

BR is obstructed by F1 on his way to first base on a pop up caught by F3. The obstruction occurs prior to the catch.

Do we kill it as this is type A obstruction by the book?

Do we treat it as a delayed dead ball type B obstruction and wait to see what happens?

Do we ignore it altoghether?


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Old Sat Jun 10, 2006, 09:49am
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BR is obstructed by F1 on his way to first base on a pop up caught by F3. The obstruction occurs prior to the catch.

Do we kill it as this is type A obstruction by the book?

Do we treat it as a delayed dead ball type B obstruction and wait to see what happens?

Do we ignore it altoghether?


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At the time of obstruction, did you know F3 was the protected fielder?
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Old Sat Jun 10, 2006, 10:11am
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At the time of obstruction, did you know F3 was the protected fielder?
Huh?

The batter is out on a fly ball obstruction like this, at least under OBR. Evans says that you should point at this type of obstruction but not signal time until he ball is caught or not caught -- if caught, the batter is out. If not caught, call time and treat as type A obstruction.
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Cool

And....

J/R also agrees with what Rich suggests from JEA in footnote #36 under the discussion of ruling on Type A Obstruction:

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If a batter-runner is obstructed before reaching first base, but his batted ball becomes caught or foul, the obstruction is nullified.
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Old Sat Jun 10, 2006, 11:52am
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JM got it (with credentials).

Obstruction is ignored on the BR if his fly ball is caught.
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Old Sat Jun 10, 2006, 05:07pm
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Huh?

The batter is out on a fly ball obstruction like this, at least under OBR. Evans says that you should point at this type of obstruction but not signal time until he ball is caught or not caught -- if caught, the batter is out. If not caught, call time and treat as type A obstruction.
Here's why I asked.
If in this sitch F1 and F3 were both making an attempt at the fly ball and if F1 'obstructed' before the umpire knew which fielder was protected as the primary fielder, then this could be interference instead of obstruction.
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Old Tue Aug 08, 2006, 12:33am
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In the case presented, the batter is out (even though he was obstructed) because the fly ball was caught. My question is, are there specific rule or case book references in any or all of the codes dealing with this play? It could be interesting trying to justify the out call to a FED coach who may not be up on the nuances of the game. Thanks.

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Old Tue Aug 08, 2006, 12:46am
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In the case presented, the batter is out (even though he was obstructed) because the fly ball was caught. My question is, are there specific rule or case book references in any or all of the codes dealing with this play? It could be interesting trying to justify the out call to a FED coach who may not be up on the nuances of the game. Thanks.

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You're thinking too much. The flyball was caught. F3's obstruction had nothing to do with the out. B/R is out on the caught fly ball.

Really simple. Where is the nuance?
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