Umpire Call Changed

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Little Papas

Thanks,
The BU did not ask for help the HU was approached by the team's coach to appeal the call a conference of umpires was called and the call was changed.

This is what happened: A ball was hit to 3rd base, the 3rd baseman threw the ball and took the 1st baseman off the bag, and he then turned and tagged the runner as he passed him by the BU called him out on the tag.

If the call was changed because of lack of vision, I could understand the HU asking if he saw the play, but the BU said he saw the play clearly and the runner was out. What do you think? Should the call stand?

Dave:

Above you'll see the fourth post in this thread quoted. This made it pretty clear that the coach went to the PU and the PU inappropriately conferred with his partner without solocitation. I would imagine he was upset that you would even think about defending such an act by another umpire. I do agree with you that his comments were harsh and uncalled for, but is there a possibility there's a history between the two of you?


Tim.

[David Emerling]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Dave:

Above you'll see the fourth post in this thread quoted. This made it pretty clear that the coach went to the PU and the PU inappropriately conferred with his partner without solocitation. I would imagine he was upset that you would even think about defending such an act by another umpire. I do agree with you that his comments were harsh and uncalled for, but is there a possibility there's a history between the two of you?

Tim.

OK, fair enough. I missed that. No big deal. I would have thought he could have pointed that out to me in a more civil manner, much like you are doing.

Yet, my post began with this sentence: "If the BU requested a conference then, clearly, he was seeking information. Although it is the BU's responsibility to officially make the reversal - I've seen the other umpire make the reversal plenty of times. Although not technically proper, it is really rather academic if BOTH umpires agree with regards to the reversal."

It seems to me all he had to say was, "The BU didn't request a conference!"

My comment on the subject was rather general, anyways.

I'm not sure his personal and caustic remark was appropriate. It certainly didn't have anything to do with what we were discussing.

Is there "history" between us? Heck, I don't know. Apparently so. I don't keep track. But comments like that always seem to come from a select group of umpires who simply can't stand coaches. Why? - I don't know.

I thought the thread was progressing rather civilly until he made those remarks, wouldn't you agree?

David Emerling
Memphis, TN

[SanDiegoSteve]

David, I believe the only thing any of us are questioning is the sexual abuse comment you made. It did not add to the discussion, and quite frankly, we have come to expect a bit more from you.

[David Emerling]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

David, I believe the only thing any of us are questioning is the sexual abuse comment you made. It did not add to the discussion, and quite frankly, we have come to expect a bit more from you.

Sometimes things don't come across in writing as they would if you were talking. I thought my comment was so completely overboard, with the smiley face at the end, that everybody would have known that I was just being a smartass.

C'mon - really - do you think for one second that I actually thought that he was sexually abused by a LL coach? Now, if I had said "Catholic priest" ... that could've been taken seriously!

Oops! Now I've gone and done it! Now I've offended all the Catholics.

I guess I should have finished that 12-step-program on political correctness. Dang!

David Emerling
Memphis, TN

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by David Emerling

C'mon - really - do you think for one second that I actually thought that he was sexually abused by a LL coach?

I wouldn't put anything past a coach!

Oh, come on I was just kidding!!!

[LMan]

Originally Posted by David Emerling

I guess I should have finished that 12-step-program on political correctness. Dang!

I once had to attend a 12-step program for Type-A personalities.


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