Scab Umpires

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

Jrutledge,

Do you realize that you do not seem to actually reply to what people are saying? Maybe you do this by accident but it sure seems like you do it on purpose.

I already said it does not offend me.

It was asked for you produce something that ANYone said inflammatory or insulting about AMLU guys. You utterly refuse to do so-I think it is because you made it up.

I have answered your question, I just do not agree with you. You also can look up any discussion that we have had here. I am not going to waste my time when this site clearly has a search feature where any of us can look up words, topics and people's posts. I do not refuse to do anything. I think that you are intelligent enough to use the feature and come to a conclusion all by yourself. You have seemed to drawn a conclusion so why do you need me to prove it to you?

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

My point is that it is not constructive to use insulting and inflammatory language. It certainly is not in harmony with your sig.

Joe

I do not thing it matters or has anything to do with being inflammatory on an internet site. If this comment is inflammatory it makes me wonder how umpires like yourself react when other things are said on the field?

Peace

[SanDiegoSteve]

Joe,

It's like talking to a post.

He is not going to answer the question, because he refuses to ever admit that he has made a mistake. He can't come up with any insulting comments directed at AMLU members (which is the question we are asking, Jeff).

Let's just go with the fact that all the harsh words are coming from the MiLB umpire camp, and not from those who take issue with them.

Most people were, myself included, 100% behind the AMLU, until they started ripping us so-called "amateur" umpires, calling us "Charlies" and "Smitties", and showing the contempt and disdain that they really feel toward us. Once I saw what their modus operandi was, while still feeling their pain, I became much less sympathetic to their plight.

Now I find myself rooting for the "scab Charlies" to do a half-way decent job, since the games were going to get played with or without the regular umpires.

[JRutledge]

What I find funny about this discussion is now you do not like the tone of the discussion and now you want to tell everyone how to have the conversation. If you ask me anyone that supports a scab is inflammatory in itself. I do not need specific language to find that objectionable or unacceptable. I know where I live there are guys who are not even respected at the HS level working while these games. In some cases there are guys who are not even currently umpires that are working some of these games. Now some of you here do not want to have the discussion because a word is used but you are here having the discussions anyway. If it bothers you so much, do not read the posts and find another topic to discuss. Maybe what kind of chest protector to use or whether +POS gives great service or not is more up your alley. I can tell that any discussion about serious issues is not going to be fit for your sensitive heart.

Peace

[SanDiegoSteve]

"Haha, charade you are." - Pink Floyd, Pigs, Three Different Kinds

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

"Haha, charade you are." - Pink Floyd, Pigs, Three Different Kinds

Great, more name calling. Is this the proof you need?

Peace

[SanDiegoSteve]

Jeff, are you a member of the AMLU? I asked for specific remarks directed toward the Minor League Umpires. Your inability to answer the most simple of questions is the reason I said you are a charade.

You post statements, and then, in true liberal fashion, try to double-talk your way out of them, without really addressing the original question. You were wrong, realized you were wrong, and then tried to half-step your way around it, thinking that we are stupid anyway, who's going to notice? But I noticed.

To further quote the song, "you're nearly a good laugh, you're nearly a laugh but you're really a cry."

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Jeff, are you a member of the AMLU? I asked for specific remarks directed toward the Minor League Umpires. Your inability to answer the most simple of questions is the reason I said you are a charade.

I have answered your questions (which for the most part are very broad and not related to the issue at hand). I am just not going to answer them in the manner that you want me to just to make you happy. What I seem to say makes you upset and I am personally getting a kick out of that. I never even responded to you in this debate about what I claimed or did not claim about the tone of this discussion.

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

You post statements, and then, in true liberal fashion, try to double-talk your way out of them, without really addressing the original question. You were wrong, realized you were wrong, and then tried to half-step your way around it, thinking that we are stupid anyway, who's going to notice? But I noticed.

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

To further quote the song, "you're nearly a good laugh, you're nearly a laugh but you're really a cry."

Now you are quoting music I most likely do not listen to. You already referenced Pink Floyd a group I never listened to or liked. I have a couple of references for you but that would be name-calling. So I will refrain from those types of words.

Peace

[PWL]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Jeff, are you a member of the AMLU? I asked for specific remarks directed toward the Minor League Umpires. Your inability to answer the most simple of questions is the reason I said you are a charade.

You post statements, and then, in true liberal fashion, try to double-talk your way out of them, without really addressing the original question. You were wrong, realized you were wrong, and then tried to half-step your way around it, thinking that we are stupid anyway, who's going to notice? But I noticed.

To further quote the song, "you're nearly a good laugh, you're nearly a laugh but you're really a cry."

I can't help about the shape I'm in.
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin.
But don't ask me what I think of you.
I might not give the answer that you what me to.

OH WELL

Now, when I talked to God I knew he'd understand.
He said, "Stand by my side and I'll be your guiding hand.
But don't don't ask me what I think of you.
I might not give the answer that you want me to".

OH WELL

Nothing like a song for every occassion.