Scab Umpires

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is bigger than Jiggy.

Of course.

This is the term that is currently being used whether Jiggy, me or anyone else here decides to use the term.

Of course this term is being used. That is the reason that I posted.

The use of this term is no different than someone calling the striking umpires stupid for deciding to strike or taking a chance on their career. This conversation is not just going to all of a sudden become civil because of the use or non-use of one word.

You seem to have missed my point completely. My point is that name-calling is a bad way for anyone to communicate.

Peace

Again, name-calling does not contribute to peace.

Joe In Michigan

[JRutledge]

[QUOTE=jwwashburn]Of course.

You seem to have missed my point completely. My point is that name-calling is a bad way for anyone to communicate.

I do not think I am missing any point. If you are so concerned about the use of "scab" then why have you not called out the names of people that sit on the other side of this issue and have done the same? I am just a question

Again, name-calling does not contribute to peace.

I do not disagree with you on that. I am just wondering if your expectation of "peace" is realistic on the internet of all places. This conversation is not much different here as it is in local places and the term "scab" was used many times by actual Minor League Umpires I know.

Peace

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not think I am missing any point. If you are so concerned about the use of "scab" then why have you not called out the names of people that sit on the other side of this issue and have done the same?

Wait a second, my bullsh*t detector just went off.

I have gone back through this, and other threads dealing with this issue, and I have not seen any posts from "the other side of this issue" that refer to the AMLU umpires in terms remotely similar to the ugly word "scab."

The worst thing I have read is the words "apprentice umpires." This is a term used by the management of MiLB, and not meant as an insult.

Please cite examples of such harsh rhetoric, any horrible names being used against the minor league umps, and I will call those individuals out.

[JRutledge]

Pick a lane and stick to it.

I thought you were ignoring my posts?

Peace

[jont]

I had a good friend who was at the game in question. While the call could have been missed by professional umpires as well, the chances of such are very unlikely as the call certainly was not a difficult one according to the rules. However, under no circumstances would a professional umpire have a "15 minute argument" over the play as happened in this case! This is the worst part of the umpiring in this situation, not the missed call. If you miss a call that happens, although this particular situation is one where after getting together, the umpires should have been able to make a correct ruling. Apparently, for most of the 15 minutes manager Razor Shines was screaming at one of the umpires. This is competely unacceptable. Triple A players and managers certainly know when they should be run and apparently the umpires would not oblige Shines and run him during the argument. After the incident, the game turned into a complete farce as Shines yelled at the plate guy about every pitch before he finally ran him two innings to late. He then proceeded to shred his lineup card on the umpire treating him with all the respect he apparently deserved for his gutless handling of the situation.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Pick a lane and stick to it.

I thought you were ignoring my posts?

Peace

Find where I said this while you are answering my original question.

I said I did not care that you do not care. I never said I would ignore your posts. That was several other posters who were considering ignoring you.

I want my question answered, since you made the ridiculous statement that people on the other side of the strike issue were calling AMLU umpires names comparable to "scab." I said that's BS. Show me the harsh names that are being attached to the minor league umpires who quit their jobs.

[socalblue1]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Find where I said this while you are answering my original question.

I said I did not care that you do not care. I never said I would ignore your posts. That was several other posters who were considering ignoring you.

I want my question answered, since you made the ridiculous statement that people on the other side of the strike issue were calling AMLU umpires names comparable to "scab." I said that's BS. Show me the harsh names that are being attached to the minor league umpires who quit their jobs.

Steve,

I recall that in one of the older threads someone tried to compare a MiLB umpire that worked HS or College games to a scab. When it was brought out that the umpire(s) in question were long time members of the respective associations and that the games had been scheduled well before the strike, the issue was dropped.

Since SOMEONE is going to ask, the AMLU stance is that members will work HS or college games only when no qualified umpire is available to the association. IE: they are not out there taking games away while asking us not to do MiLB games.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Find where I said this while you are answering my original question.

I said I did not care that you do not care. I never said I would ignore your posts. That was several other posters who were considering ignoring you.

I want my question answered, since you made the ridiculous statement that people on the other side of the strike issue were calling AMLU umpires names comparable to "scab." I said that's BS. Show me the harsh names that are being attached to the minor league umpires who quit their jobs.

Once again, I did not say anything about you. I thought you were ignoring everything I say and you have found no value in my posts. Oh well, I will do the ignoring for you.

Peace

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Once again, I did not say anything about you. I thought you were ignoring everything I say and you have found no value in my posts. Oh well, I will do the ignoring for you.

Peace

I never said anything of the sort. You are a master at putting words in people's mouths. I never said I was going to ignore you, nor did I say anything about the value of your posts. Please just answer the questions asked of you, unless you are intentionally being obtuse.

You can't get away with making a flip statement such as this, and not answer for it:

"I do not think I am missing any point. If you are so concerned about the use of "scab" then why have you not called out the names of people that sit on the other side of this issue and have done the same?"

Now, show me an example of ugly names leveled at the AMLU umpires, and quit skirting the issue.