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Old Tue Apr 11, 2006, 12:45pm
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I agree that the apprentice umpires are ahead of the replacements at the AAA level.

But don't tell me that this mistake couldn't get made, at least originally. Frankly, I'm surprised that this wasn't sorted out in the discussion afterwards. But again, where's the protest?

That's exactly what I am telling you. This is not a difficult play at all! There is no excuse for such a mistake. While we don't know for sure that the game was not protested, who cares? By your logic, it's ok for umpires to be incompetent because if the screw up the teams can just protest and it'll be ok. WOW, what non-sense! You want to know why an AMLU guy would get the play right? Because if they didn't (especially if they took and lost the protest) they would loose their job.

...its ok though...the scabs are doing a great job...

YEAH RIGHT...STAY TUNED...
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Old Tue Apr 11, 2006, 12:49pm
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Old Tue Apr 11, 2006, 01:00pm
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That's exactly what I am telling you. This is not a difficult play at all! There is no excuse for such a mistake. While we don't know for sure that the game was not protested, who cares? By your logic, it's ok for umpires to be incompetent because if the screw up the teams can just protest and it'll be ok. WOW, what non-sense! You want to know why an AMLU guy would get the play right? Because if they didn't (especially if they took and lost the protest) they would loose their job.

...its ok though...the scabs are doing a great job...

YEAH RIGHT...STAY TUNED...
The line drive play Froemming missed before discussion on Sunday wasn't difficult either. Don't see him losing his job or being criticized harshly over it.

A AAA-level manager doesn't know to protest a rules misapplication and it's no big deal.

And the word is lose, not "loose."

I see you can't NOT use the word scab, either. Too bad. I'd be more incliined to consider your opinions then.
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Old Tue Apr 11, 2006, 01:06pm
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The line drive play Froemming missed before discussion on Sunday wasn't difficult either. Don't see him losing his job or being criticized harshly over it.

A AAA-level manager doesn't know to protest a rules misapplication and it's no big deal.

And the word is lose, not "loose."

I see you can't NOT use the word scab, either. Too bad. I'd be more incliined to consider your opinions then.
First off, catch/ no catch is not a rule application, it's judgment. Secondly, if you think a manager at that level doesn't know how to protest, you're crazy. They knew it was wrong, and they knew it was protestable. Let a few of those situations simmer for a while before the managers and players decide "to hell with the gag order and keeping peace!"
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Old Tue Apr 11, 2006, 01:09pm
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First off, catch/ no catch is not a rule application, it's judgment. Secondly, if you think a manager at that level doesn't know how to protest, you're crazy. They knew it was wrong, and they knew it was protestable. Let a few of those situations simmer for a while before the managers and players decide "to hell with the gag order and keeping peace!"
It was an easy call regardless.

Something true in life -- rats will always look for scapegoats. Umpires are easy targets when all is normal, I agree that these guys will be even easier targets eventually, and it has nothing to do with the quality of their umpiring.
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Old Tue Apr 11, 2006, 01:14pm
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It was an easy call regardless.

Something true in life -- rats will always look for scapegoats. Umpires are easy targets when all is normal, I agree that these guys will be even easier targets eventually, and it has nothing to do with the quality of their umpiring.
They are easier and bigger targets exactly because of the quality (or lack thereof) of their umpiring.
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