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Old Sun Apr 09, 2006, 01:53pm
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Contrary to popular belief, time is on the side of the AMLU. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you're not gonna fool anyone at some point!

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...325/1007/RSS02

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pb...91/1003/SPORTS
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Old Sun Apr 09, 2006, 05:10pm
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Old Sun Apr 09, 2006, 05:33pm
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Contrary to popular belief, time is on the side of the AMLU. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you're not gonna fool anyone at some point!

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...325/1007/RSS02

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pb...91/1003/SPORTS
Really nice of 3 guys to make a committment and then back out at the last minute. Either work or don't, but be up front about it.

As for the other article, I guess none of the AMLU guys ever miss a call. They're perfect. Just another union sympathizer using his column. Who cares?
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As for the other article, I guess none of the AMLU guys ever miss a call. They're perfect. Just another union sympathizer using his column. Who cares?
It does not matter if the union guys miss calls or not. Unfortunately for those that decide to work these games, that is going to be the knock on them. Also Minor League players are either going to be in the union and many of the managers were in the union. You think they are just going to give these guys a lot of slack?

Right or wrong is not the issue here. Every decision these guys make they are not going forget that these guys are not the “pros.” Life is not always fair. We get enough crap when we are perfectly qualified, why would you want everyone to know going in you are not. Perception is often reality in the real world.

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Old Sun Apr 09, 2006, 06:24pm
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It does not matter if the union guys miss calls or not. Unfortunately for those that decide to work these games, that is going to be the knock on them. Also Minor League players are either going to be in the union and many of the managers were in the union. You think they are just going to give these guys a lot of slack?

Right or wrong is not the issue here. Every decision these guys make they are not going forget that these guys are not the “pros.” Life is not always fair. We get enough crap when we are perfectly qualified, why would you want everyone to know going in you are not. Perception is often reality in the real world.

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From what I heard, though, the umpires aren't getting grief on the field. Just another columnist latching on to the controversy of the day.
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Old Sun Apr 09, 2006, 07:46pm
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The players, coaches, and managers have been instructed not to give the replacements heat. They will remember for a few days, but in a week or so, it will become too much to hold in. There should be some real blow-ups by then.
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Old Sun Apr 09, 2006, 08:45pm
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"Nothing against these guys, but most of the regular umpires have been in this league five or six years," Tyner said. "They are used to this. They've spent years training to work at this level."

Ok, correct me if I got this wrong, but I thought that two(or at the most three) was the most you could be at AAA without moving up or getting canned. Maybe this writed should use a little less time calling people names like a third grader and a little more time checking his facts.

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Old Sun Apr 09, 2006, 09:13pm
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"Nothing against these guys, but most of the regular umpires have been in this league five or six years," Tyner said. "They are used to this. They've spent years training to work at this level."

Ok, correct me if I got this wrong, but I thought that two(or at the most three) was the most you could be at AAA without moving up or getting canned. Maybe this writed should use a little less time calling people names like a third grader and a little more time checking his facts.

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That's what's quoted, but they keep those umpires hanging on as long as they want (and then eventually release them since only 1 guy a year on average retires).
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Old Sun Apr 09, 2006, 09:14pm
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"Nothing against these guys, but most of the regular umpires have been in this league five or six years," Tyner said. "They are used to this. They've spent years training to work at this level."

Ok, correct me if I got this wrong, but I thought that two(or at the most three) was the most you could be at AAA without moving up or getting canned. Maybe this writed should use a little less time calling people names like a third grader and a little more time checking his facts.

Joe In Michigan
OK, you shall be corrected. At AAA guys usually spend a few years before getting fill-in work, then a couple more as fill-ins before possibly getting hired by MLB. Until they get to AAA, umpires are generally let go after not moving up after 2 years.
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Old Sun Apr 09, 2006, 09:15pm
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The players, coaches, and managers have been instructed not to give the replacements heat. They will remember for a few days, but in a week or so, it will become too much to hold in. There should be some real blow-ups by then.
And since the replacements are just there until the strike is settled, there should be a record number of ejections when that happens. I don't think management is going to cave regardless of the number of blow ups.
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