BRD

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally posted by Rich Ives

1) You're an umpire that doesn't need a reference on the rules?

2) Send me your US Mail address and I'll send you my 2005 copy after I get the 2006 version. I also have a 2004 version if anyone wants that one.

1) I need all the help I can get. I just don't know if I can afford all the different manuals that are out there. I have other expenses, and I am not rich to begin with. I have been (blissfully) doing without extra interpretation manuals for 20 years now, but I would like to have them now that I am aware of them. I had always relied on the rule books, casebooks (proper spelling, WWTB, according to the MLBUM), and classroom discussions. I want to be the best umpire possible, so any extra help is appreciated.

2) I am sending you an e-mail with the info. Dibs on the 2005 version.

[briancurtin]

Originally posted by Rich Ives
You did.

Go back and read your own post - the one time stamped Nov 29th, 2005 01:10 PM where you said:

"Carl had to go back and change it to say that a coach may use a wheelchair in the coach's box, for untill a couple days ago, he did not know that."

your browser must not be picking up the HTML sarcasm tag

[Rich]

Originally posted by SanDiegoSteve

Oh come on you two, it was funny as hell. Thanks, Luke. You AH's need to lighten up a bit. At least we got the answer of when it is coming out. Thank you, Carl. Hey, Rich, if you want to shell out the money for a copy of the BRD for everyone, fine. If not, don't spend our money for us. Some of us have much more important uses for our hard earned dough.

There is no better resource than the BRD. And this comes from someone who hasn't exactly been chummy with Carl lately.

[LDUB]

Originally posted by Rich Ives

You did.

Go back and read your own post - the one time stamped Nov 29th, 2005 01:10 PM where you said:

"Carl had to go back and change it to say that a coach may use a wheelchair in the coach's box, for untill a couple days ago, he did not know that."
[/B]

You should go back and check your post where you wrote: "It's hard to legitimately claim he didn't know it when it's published in his book."

My post was reconized by several other posters as a joke. A joke saying he doesn't know something is not "legitimately claiming" that he does not know something.

[ozzy6900]

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser

There is no better resource than the BRD. And this comes from someone who hasn't exactly been chummy with Carl lately.

Ditto, Rich! The BRD has become one of my most valuable tools as I officiate under all 3 codes. Trying to keep all the rules straight was a royal pain. The advent of the BRD put it all together.

To those who question the BRD, it is not "another rule book". You still need all 3 (OBR, FED & NCAA) rule books. The BRD takes a rule and associates it to the 3 rule books, shows the differences and supplies the case book and "double-secret rulings" put forth the rule gods. The best part is that Carl cites the rule book and rule number references along with the case book reference numbers so you can look up the rule as needed. He added a second index to quickly locate a rule and has a detailed index at the end as always. I've had many occasions where a coach wanted to see a rule (in the parking lot, of course) and I use the BRD to tell me exactly which rule to go to.

Of course, there are those who use the "photographic memory" concept of officiating. To those who have that capability, more power to ya'! I know my rules, but when an explanation is needed be it in the parking lot, at an association meeting or at our mentor's group, the BRD has been one of my best tools. Besides, it makes good reading in the "reading room"! Our HS rules interpreter always said "If you take the rule book into the crapper with you, you'll read the damn thing twice and you might just learn something!"

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by SanDiegoSteve


1) I need all the help I can get. I just don't know if I can afford all the different manuals that are out there. I have other expenses, and I am not rich to begin with. I have been (blissfully) doing without extra interpretation manuals for 20 years now, but I would like to have them now that I am aware of them. I had always relied on the rule books, casebooks (proper spelling, WWTB, according to the MLBUM), and classroom discussions. I want to be the best umpire possible, so any extra help is appreciated.

I agree with Rich and others -- if you can only afford one reference manual, this should be the first one. This is true even if you only work under one rules code. I only hope my order goes through this year (Carl, Brad -- that's a hint to either (grammar alert -- It is wrong to ever split an infinitive) allow on-line ordering without registering for the site or allow phone ordering -- neither worked for me last January)

[largeone59]

ok then, to clarify my original question....

the BRD edition for 2006 won't come out until late January then, right?

[ozzy6900]

Originally posted by largeone59
ok then, to clarify my original question....

the BRD edition for 2006 won't come out until late January then, right?

Right Large, between the end of January and the middle of February. Carl has to wait for the gods of the NCAA and the FED to finalize their changes. Carl usually lets us know when the BRD is ready.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally posted by largeone59
ok then, to clarify my original question....

the BRD edition for 2006 won't come out until late January then, right?

Well, why didn't ya say so in the first place?

[mbyron]

Originally posted by Carl Childress
BTW: Concerning my article that came out today on the paid site: I'm surprised that one or more of the big dogs didn't comment on my distinctly "little dog" opinion of posts that ask simple, basic questions.

Maybe nobody read it.

Well I read it. I'm not a big dog, so I can't meliorate your "surprise," but I would have thought that the big dogs were complaining more about little league questions, such as "are the hands part of the bat?" than about little dog questions, such as "is the BR out if a batted ball strikes a bat in fair ground?"

You got some nice plugs in this thread, Carl. You should keep bumping it every week until the 2006 BRD comes out (that stands for "Best Resource, Dammit!" doesn't it?)

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally posted by mbyron

Well I read it. I'm not a big dog, so I can't meliorate your "surprise," but I would have thought that the big dogs were complaining more about little league questions, such as "are the hands part of the bat?" than about little dog questions, such as "is the BR out if a batted ball strikes a bat in fair ground?"

Mr. Byron,

You would be surprised at the number of high school and college coaches who think that the hands are part of the bat. It is much more than just a little league question. I don't know where people got that idea, sort of like a tie going to a runner, just one of those perpetuated baseball myths.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally posted by thomaswhite

A fine piece of work, annually renewed, a tad overpriced relative to wages uninflated, edge dulled by author's own commotions, but a tool nonetheless.....from a Tool! [/B]

You are a boob.

[BigUmp56]

A fine piece of work, annually renewed, a tad overpriced relative to wages uninflated, edge dulled by author's own commotions, but a tool nonetheless.....from a Tool!

Into the fray strode a new darkened warrior. Bereft of the weaponry necessary to adequately engage the master, he nonetheless threw down his gauntlet in a flaccid gesture......

It was a dark time for the Forum, indeed............

Tim.

[bluehair]

Wit and brevity...less is more...BW is conserved.

...nice touch.

The more we respond to trolls, the longer they reside here.

[Bob Lyle]

Originally posted by PWL
Is troll slang for controllers? As in to con"troll". Looks like WWTB has a an apprentice in training.

Are you sure he's in training and not Windy himself with another name?