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Old Sat Jun 01, 2019, 03:34pm
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Hands & Bat

USSSA Baseball, 14U Batter (not swinging and not in the strike zone) is hit on the hands by a pitch. Ball goes into fair territory where it is fielded and thrown to 1B. Batter is called out. I did not understand this and asked the plate umpire between innings if the batter had swung on a third strike and was hit. "No", he replied, "he was thrown out at 1B."

The ball should have been dead and the runner should have been awarded 1B, correct?
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Old Sat Jun 01, 2019, 08:19pm
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USSSA Baseball, 14U Batter (not swinging and not in the strike zone) is hit on the hands by a pitch. Ball goes into fair territory where it is fielded and thrown to 1B. Batter is called out. I did not understand this and asked the plate umpire between innings if the batter had swung on a third strike and was hit. "No", he replied, "he was thrown out at 1B."

The ball should have been dead and the runner should have been awarded 1B, correct?
Why didn't you ask at the moment? Why didn't you protest?
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Old Sat Jun 01, 2019, 10:24pm
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USSSA Baseball, 14U Batter (not swinging and not in the strike zone) is hit on the hands by a pitch. Ball goes into fair territory where it is fielded and thrown to 1B. Batter is called out. I did not understand this and asked the plate umpire between innings if the batter had swung on a third strike and was hit. "No", he replied, "he was thrown out at 1B."

The ball should have been dead and the runner should have been awarded 1B, correct?
As described, yes.

Maybe the umpire had something different. Maybe he fell for the "hands are part of the bat" myth.
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Old Sun Jun 02, 2019, 08:17am
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The umpire did not say the "hands are part of the bat", but I suspect that was the thinking.Why did I not protest? I was a fan, not a coach. Although this was a grandson's team, I am not personally acquainted with the coaches. Also, it was an inning or so after the action that I got the explanation.
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Old Sun Jun 02, 2019, 10:09am
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Seems like something that has happened, at least, 10 times in my games this season. Twice as many times than I've seen in my whole career. And, 5-6 times the ball was fair!

Could this be the case here?
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Old Sun Jun 02, 2019, 10:27am
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The umpire did not say the "hands are part of the bat", but I suspect that was the thinking.Why did I not protest? I was a fan, not a coach. Although this was a grandson's team, I am not personally acquainted with the coaches. Also, it was an inning or so after the action that I got the explanation.
Go to the next game. Let him know what to do next time.
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Old Wed Jun 05, 2019, 07:29pm
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As described, yes.

Maybe the umpire had something different. Maybe he fell for the "hands are part of the bat" myth.
And maybe the umpire ruled that the pitch hit the knob of the bat, not the hand. Maybe?
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Old Wed Jun 05, 2019, 08:38pm
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And maybe the umpire ruled that the pitch hit the knob of the bat, not the hand. Maybe?
This is what I was hinting to!
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