Offer or Not

[bigda65]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-frbbAF4f4

Not sure if the link worked..

At about 5:13,

edited to add,

Would you judge this an offer, or would you judge this as not an offer?

[ozzy6900]

Yes, he went.

[bob jenkins]

I like the umpire's decisive call.

[robbie]

OK - What am I missing?

Real time from behind the pitcher: Hmmm, may be a swing.

Slow from behind the pitcher: No, I don't think so.

Overhead shot: Really not even close - Good check - No swing.

[Mbilica]

I don't see an offer here, from any angle. Incorrect call in my view.

[Matt]

Most definitely a swing.

[bigda65]

At first, I thought he judged the ball hit him in the strike zone, I did not think he offered in real time.

Kudos to the umpire, he was pointing immediately and I heard him say "that was a swing"

My vote is no offer.

[Matt]

Let me point out something which is the biggest reason I have a swing...

He was still swinging when the ball hit him. That will always be an offer in my book.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Matt

Let me point out something which is the biggest reason I have a swing...

He was still swinging when the ball hit him. That will always be an offer in my book.

Your post beat me to the punch.

MTD, Sr.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by Matt

Let me point out something which is the biggest reason I have a swing...

He was still swinging when the ball hit him. That will always be an offer in my book.

Great answer, and one that I'll add to my repertoire.

[bigda65]

Matt,
My two cents, this pitch is borderline in the batters box = benefit of the doubt goes to the batter.

But for discussion sake, take the pitch completely out of the equation, lets say we put it at eye level directly above the plate, would you still judge an offer?

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by bigda65

Matt,
My two cents, this pitch is borderline in the batters box = benefit of the doubt goes to the batter.

It doesn't matter, the pitch was not in the batter's box and the batter offered.

Originally Posted by bigda65

Matt,
But for discussion sake, take the pitch completely out of the equation, lets say we put it at eye level directly above the plate, would you still judge an offer?

We as umpires do not have this view so the point is mute.

[Rich]

I thought this was a miss then and nothing has changed my mind.

[bigda65]

Ozzy,

Not trying to start an argument, but the ball is above his left knee, and his knee is really close to the inside of the line. Ball may not be completely inside the line of the batters box. More of the ball is in the box than not.

[robbie]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

We as umpires do not have this view so the point is mute.

A view we DO have:
Pretend Plate Ump only called dead ball - go to first. Defense appeals to Base Ump. Are you really saying you would have ruled a swing?