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Matt,
My two cents, this pitch is borderline in the batters box = benefit of the doubt goes to the batter. But for discussion sake, take the pitch completely out of the equation, lets say we put it at eye level directly above the plate, would you still judge an offer? |
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We as umpires do not have this view so the point is mute.
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Ozzy,
Not trying to start an argument, but the ball is above his left knee, and his knee is really close to the inside of the line. Ball may not be completely inside the line of the batters box. More of the ball is in the box than not. |
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A view we DO have:
Pretend Plate Ump only called dead ball - go to first. Defense appeals to Base Ump. Are you really saying you would have ruled a swing? |
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The view behind the mound in real-time, I was uncertain (thus, I would have HBP.)
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Gee, I'm so sorry. I thought we were posting opinions of what we saw. I'll never do it again.
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Absolutely! Look at the video in real time. The only reason the batter was HBP was because he chose to attempt a swing. Yes, he pulled back and if he was never hit, there would have been no swing. But by attempting, he moved his arm into the pitch and that is how I would have ruled it.
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So he pulled back, which I think you agree that was no offer, but the pitch hit him, so now it is an offer?
So if the pitch didn't hit him, you would have had ball 4 and no offer? |
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Because we have people that don't understand how to umpire yet. They think that relying on replays, intuition and announcers is the way to do it, instead of officiating on what happened. They'll give up soon.
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