MLB screw up

[shipwreck]

Just watching Royals versus Rangers. Ranger player hits a pop up 12" foul where the fielder touches it and then it lands fair. Originally called a foul ball, but after umpires conferred, called it a fair ball. How is this possible? Does MLB have some strange rule?

[bob jenkins]

MLB (and NCAA) does NOT have the "once called foul it must remain foul" rule like FED does (that is, they have instances where there this is NOT true). Beyond that, we'd need a better description or video.

[asdf]

PU declares the ball foul... However he is standing to the left of the catcher, who is standing to the foul side of the foul line..... U3 is straddling the foul line with a perfect view of the ball versus foul line.....

Camera angle and angle of the PU are not reliable in this situation.

[shipwreck]

I am not buying into the camera angle theory. You look where his feet are positioned in comparison to the chalk line. The ball clearly was touched in foul territory.

[asdf]

Its not a theory. it's fact....

someone looking straight down the line as U3 was has a better look than where the PU was.....


As far as the camera angle goes..... The camera is not looking straight down the line and the view is distorted. Same as a look at the strike zone from the outfield camera.

[Ump29]

Originally Posted by shipwreck

I am not buying into the camera angle theory. You look where his feet are positioned in comparison to the chalk line. The ball clearly was touched in foul territory.

His feet have nothing to do with fair/foul.

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by shipwreck

I am not buying into the camera angle theory. You look where his feet are positioned in comparison to the chalk line. The ball clearly was touched in foul territory.

While the ball may have been touched in foul territory, U3 judged part of it was over fair territory when touched.

[Cécile]

Sorry to cut into the debate and bother you with newbie basic questions but what's the difference between MLB, FED and NCAA ?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Cécile

Sorry to cut into the debate and bother you with newbie basic questions but what's the difference between MLB, FED and NCAA ?

MLB: Major League Baseball. Uses OBR -- Official Baseball Rules. oBR is also the basis for many youth leagues in the US (which generally use "OBR, except as follows...." type rules)

NCAA: Colleges in the US

FED: (most) High Schools in the US

[Cécile]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

MLB: Major League Baseball. Uses OBR -- Official Baseball Rules. oBR is also the basis for many youth leagues in the US (which generally use "OBR, except as follows...." type rules)

NCAA: Colleges in the US

FED: (most) High Schools in the US

Thank You !

[shipwreck]

Originally Posted by Ump29

His feet have nothing to do with fair/foul.

I know THAT. I was just saying if you can't trust camera angles, look where his feet were and his glove was directly above his feet. Ball was touched in foul territory the way it appeared.

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by shipwreck

I know THAT. I was just saying if you can't trust camera angles, look where his feet were and his glove was directly above his feet. Ball was touched in foul territory the way it appeared.

His glove was not directly above his feet:

This screen shot is just after the ball hit the glove.

["Lurker"77]

Had to fight a bit to grab one too, but here's a different angle as well . . .

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by "Lurker"77

Had to fight a bit to grab one too, but here's a different angle as well . . .

Kudos for a much better grab.

[asdf]

and more proof that U3 had the best look