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Old Sat Nov 22, 2014, 11:19pm
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Volleyball video

Ok, video from a high school match in the area. Using NFHS rules.

The interesting portion is at about 47:30 through 55:00.

The announcers are pretty much clueless, but that's beside the point. How does do the officials handle this.

I know one of the officials on this match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk4qGKC9814


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Old Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:27am
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I don't do much NFHS, but from what I remember:

Looks like the second referee acknowledges two separate substitution requests from the same team during the same dead ball. The first referee is correct in denying the second substitution request, despite the second referee acknowledging it.

Since the second referee whistled to acknowledge the second request, if I remember correctly, it should be an unnecessary delay, and a time out to the substituting team. If no time outs remain, then it's a point and service to the opponent.

I could be wrong in this. Though from what I remember, I think that's the procedure they should have followed.
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Old Mon Nov 24, 2014, 05:14am
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Man you were right the announcers are incredibly clueless.Especially the play by play guy-know your volleyball man.

Now onto the officiating part of this:

*Good on the R1-he went thru his progressions correctly on the cards to the coach.Would any of you pass red and go straight to DQ for coach sitting on the floor when she is asked to sit down?

*Antonio-you're right on NFHS Unnecessary Delay.We're saying that the substitution request is denied because the R2 has given the game back to his partner correct?

*I'd like to know how the R2 communicated with the coach in the video Chapmaja- also some advice for communicating with coaches in this situation.
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Old Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:01am
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SC, it isn't that the R2 had given the court back to the R1. 10.2.3.c requires that a subsequent substitutes need to be ready to enter the sub zone. Since the R2 completed reporting the first sub to the table, it was too late to add a second substitute.
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Old Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:45am
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john5396-so sub wasn't in the zone in time? OK that makes sense-the camera just bounces from the coach to R2 when the 2nd sub attempts to go in. When I am the R2 I always explain double substitution as the R2 during the captains meeting.I still would like to know people's thoughts about skipping red and jumping straight to DQ when she sits down on the floor after being told to sit.To me it could be construed as mocking an official's authority.
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Old Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:59am
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I wouldn't have any problem with a DQ when she sat down on the floor when told she had to stay seated.
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Old Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:43am
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Wow. So much bad here.

The R2 could have handled a lot of this way better. There's no reason for the captain to have had to go back and forth if the R2 could have explained things better.

It looks like the R1 handled everything relatively appropriately. I would *not* have gone straight to DQ when she popped a squat on the floor, but I think the red would have come out sooner.

I also think the libero contrast on the team on the right is horrible, but that's another thread.
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