Volleyball video

[Antonio.King]

I don't do much NFHS, but from what I remember:

Looks like the second referee acknowledges two separate substitution requests from the same team during the same dead ball. The first referee is correct in denying the second substitution request, despite the second referee acknowledging it.

Since the second referee whistled to acknowledge the second request, if I remember correctly, it should be an unnecessary delay, and a time out to the substituting team. If no time outs remain, then it's a point and service to the opponent.

I could be wrong in this. Though from what I remember, I think that's the procedure they should have followed.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Man you were right the announcers are incredibly clueless.Especially the play by play guy-know your volleyball man.

Now onto the officiating part of this:

*Good on the R1-he went thru his progressions correctly on the cards to the coach.Would any of you pass red and go straight to DQ for coach sitting on the floor when she is asked to sit down?

*Antonio-you're right on NFHS Unnecessary Delay.We're saying that the substitution request is denied because the R2 has given the game back to his partner correct?

*I'd like to know how the R2 communicated with the coach in the video Chapmaja- also some advice for communicating with coaches in this situation.

[john5396]

SC, it isn't that the R2 had given the court back to the R1. 10.2.3.c requires that a subsequent substitutes need to be ready to enter the sub zone. Since the R2 completed reporting the first sub to the table, it was too late to add a second substitute.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

john5396-so sub wasn't in the zone in time? OK that makes sense-the camera just bounces from the coach to R2 when the 2nd sub attempts to go in. When I am the R2 I always explain double substitution as the R2 during the captains meeting.I still would like to know people's thoughts about skipping red and jumping straight to DQ when she sits down on the floor after being told to sit.To me it could be construed as mocking an official's authority.

[john5396]

I wouldn't have any problem with a DQ when she sat down on the floor when told she had to stay seated.

[FMadera]

Wow. So much bad here.

The R2 could have handled a lot of this way better. There's no reason for the captain to have had to go back and forth if the R2 could have explained things better.

It looks like the R1 handled everything relatively appropriately. I would *not* have gone straight to DQ when she popped a squat on the floor, but I think the red would have come out sooner.

I also think the libero contrast on the team on the right is horrible, but that's another thread.

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by FMadera

Wow. So much bad here.

The R2 could have handled a lot of this way better. There's no reason for the captain to have had to go back and forth if the R2 could have explained things better.

It looks like the R1 handled everything relatively appropriately. I would *not* have gone straight to DQ when she popped a squat on the floor, but I think the red would have come out sooner.

I also think the libero contrast on the team on the right is horrible, but that's another thread.

Now, with the comments said, here is what I know additionally about this situation, both from the R1 and from others who know the coach who was DQ'ed.

First, the R2 was a newer official who was working one of his first few Varsity matches. He learned a lot from this experience and will use it in the future.

Second, that is the last match coached by the coach. She was relieved of her duties immediately after the match.

Third, multiple reports say she went and hid under the bleachers after she was asked to leave.

Now, my opinion. I may have gone straight to the red and yellow cards following the sitting down on the floor antics. That was an obvious attempt to show up the officials in this situation. In my opinion the idea of sitting down on the court like that constitutes a major unsportsmanlike violation. The question is does 1 minor and 1 major equal a red and yellow or a red. The book says first minor is a yellow, first major is a red or second minor is a red. I think I would have been inclined to go with red and yellow.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Good on that AD-she won't be coaching again anytime soon after this.Felix-what is your thinking behind not going straight to DQ? To me she is showing up me and my partner and I'm going to put an end to it right here.

Chapmaja-do you know if game admin escorted her completely out of the building and then snuck back in?

are you waiting for game admin to escort her out and keep her out before resuming this match?