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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 12:30pm
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ok I get what you guys are trying to do.this is the highest level match I'll get to work as an R1 or R2 all year.I call lines for one of our schools who requests officials as line judges.I love October because every week I'm working multiple matches.
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 01:32pm
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ok I get what you guys are trying to do.this is the highest level match I'll get to work as an R1 or R2 all year.I call lines for one of our schools who requests officials as line judges.I love October because every week I'm working multiple matches.
We have players do the lines for us. If V playing, JV players do them, and vice versa.

My very first time I reffed I did R1 both matches! thank God nothing major happened!
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 02:37pm
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Here is my pre - game:

My name is Andy, this is my partner _____.

The VB court is the (color) line all the way around and (color) through the middle.

Playable area in this gym is ____ on the ends and _____ to the sides.

Cover any overhead obstructions..tell the players to play to the whistle.

Coaches...are your players legally and properly equipped? Players may not participate with any type of jewelry on, any body piercings that I can't see, I don't want to know about. (that usually gets a bit of a chuckle).

Players on the floor, it is your responsibility to shag the balls after the play is over (unless using shaggers and a ball rotation).

Who are my speaking captains on both sides?

Administer the coin toss.
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 08:12pm
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If we are talking high school;

Ladies, I am Mr S, and this is Mr/Ms H - I feel, especially with the younger levels , it helps maintain a certain professional distance.


In New York we are required (in all sports) to read/discuss the state Sportsmanship and Jewelry rules - we actually get cards with them. If we see a player during warmups with tape on the ears, we actually have to have to coach come over, and we ask the player to remove the tape.
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 08:25pm
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ok I get what you guys are trying to do.this is the highest level match I'll get to work as an R1 or R2 all year.I call lines for one of our schools who requests officials as line judges.I love October because every week I'm working multiple matches.
Here in our section of New York, in order to save on bus trips, they decided to have the middle school level - called 'modified' here - teams play, instead of home/home. a double match of 3 sets once (for a very nice fee also, - $120! ) in two of the three counties we cover. The other county had been doing either 5 set or double matches for a long time. The first season they started that, I got around 10 matches that way. This year, our association is so short of modified officials, I am in the middle of a 17 match season!

And - even though I am a modified official, I get called to do at least one or two JV only or JV/Varsity.

I will end up doing in a month and change of volleyball almost what I got for two and half months of high school softball!
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 11:10pm
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Well that was interesting

Well jv match that went 3.had a girl touch a ball that was going to be out touch it.we both missed it-got the line judges together and got the call right.

during varsity-had an injury timeout,roster issue (V coach forgot to designate the libero on his roster),and an wrong server.

unit president's daughter played for home school and thought as a crew we did a good job.
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Old Wed Oct 09, 2013, 07:50am
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Well jv match that went 3.had a girl touch a ball that was going to be out touch it.we both missed it-got the line judges together and got the call right.

during varsity-had an injury timeout,roster issue (V coach forgot to designate the libero on his roster),and an wrong server.

unit president's daughter played for home school and thought as a crew we did a good job.
Good job!
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Old Wed Oct 09, 2013, 11:06am
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thanks-got a couple of good things to work on
*From the varsity match-
*I have a bit of tunnel vision as an R2
*Review the Southern California timeout protocols

*From JV-
*My partner thought I let the setters get away with murder
*Do a better job of tracking back row play.
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Old Wed Oct 09, 2013, 10:06pm
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My meetings are pretty short. I particularly don't point out the lines unless there is a congested or problem area. On point out any potential interference like basketball goals and out of play areas. No one wants to be there and all they hear is: bla bla bla bla serve bla bla recieve bla bla bla.
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Old Thu Oct 10, 2013, 12:05am
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My meetings are short too, to the point where I've memorized it and said it so often I get the "You should be a flight attendant" comment afterwards.

My speech usually is this:

"My name is Antonio and I'll be the R1 for your match, and *point to the 2nd referee, allowing them to introduce themselves*"

- Jewelry
- Pursuit
- Overhead hanging obstructions (only if any are present)
- Play until you hear our whistle

If there's one thing I'd encourage you to do BEFORE doing the toss, it's to ask your R2 this magic question: "Is there anything you'd like to add before we go?"

This gives them to discuss things relevant to the R2 responsibilities (subs, normally). Allow your partner to address things relevant to them.
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Old Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:35am
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thanks-got a couple of good things to work on
*From the varsity match-
*I have a bit of tunnel vision as an R2
*Review the Southern California timeout protocols

*From JV-
*My partner thought I let the setters get away with murder
*Do a better job of tracking back row play.

Your experience is pretty much typical for your first JV/Varsity - nothing really prepares you at the younger levels for the ball handling criteria at JV, and as R2 for the varsity, you just need to remember when teams are subbing. By the second set, you should have a pretty good idea of that.

One NICE thing about working R2 for JV/Varsity, that 99.9% of the time, you won't have to worry about the scorekeepers. One of the biggest headaches at the middle school level matches, is that you are are more likely to have a neophyte scorekeeper - either a 12 year old kid, or volunteer adult. In a lot of the better programs, one of their JV players will hang around before/after practice, and score.
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Old Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:27am
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ASA/NYSSOBLUE-Yeah up to this point I have been working a lot of varsity singles as an R2 and line judging.That was the only JV/Var double I'll get to do.I'm working 3 jr high matches on my own over the next couple weeks (2 in a doubleheader format),twice as an R2 (1 for JV & 1 Varsity),and line judging 4 times.I go back to the same school I was at Tuesday for all my junior high matches-their stand gives me the spooks.My scorekeeper for the JV/Var doubleheader Tuesday was actually my scorekeeping counterpart in basketball & really good.She caught the libero serving in the wrong spot which I don't think I ever had happen in all my years of scorekeeping.Our last regular season matches here are Nov.6 and playoffs start on Nov 12.I'm a pretty good line judge and getting better as an R2 so we'll see how I get used in the playoffs.
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