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Old Mon Apr 21, 2025, 08:17pm
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NFHS delay progression

In FED rules, does a team get more than one delay warning per match? If Team A gets a delay warning in set 1 and then delays the match in set 2, does that get a delay penalty? I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, but my partner today was pretty adamant that the delay in set 2 is another warning.

Here's the exact scenario. Team A could NOT figure out how to make a legal libero replacement. After my partner checks the lineups prior to the start of set 1, the libero enters the court along the end line. I saw it and purposely ignored it, thinking that I didn't want to start the match with a verbal warning for such a minor thing. In the second set, the two middles do a "double replacement" through the substitution zone. My partner sees it and give me gesture that said "Whatever, let's just move on". In the third set, the double replacement happens after I beckon for serve. Now, we're both a little frustrated by this and he gives them their verbal warning. Later in the third set, something happens that I didn't see and he requests the unnecessary delay, which I give. In the fourth set, they AGAIN make the libero replacement after the beckon for serve.

I allow the serve to continue and Team A wins the point. My partner signals for another delay card, but when I pull out red, he's completely surprised. So he comes over to talk and since I wasn't 100% sure, we gave a second yellow.

So. . .

1) Is the yellow card the correct administration after multiple incorrect libero replacements?

2) If yes, would a subsequent incorrect replacement in a different set result in a delay PENALTY (red card) as I thought?

3) If yes, does the delay penalty result in a loss of rally and a "side out" for the non-offending team; or is it an administrative penalty (a point only, and no loss of service) like for illegal uniforms?

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Old Tue Apr 22, 2025, 06:27am
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DELAY warnings are per team, per set. (And, I should add, CONDUCT cards are per person, per match). So, one in the third and one in the fourth would be two yellows. But, for repeated delays, you can go to a conduct card. See the NOTE at the end of 9-9.

That said, illegal libero replacement after the whistle for serve is a loss of rally/point. See 10-4-4 penalty. (This will change next year)
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Old Tue Apr 22, 2025, 07:17am
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Thanks, Bob!
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Old Tue Apr 22, 2025, 10:30am
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My partner signals for another delay card, but when I pull out red, he's completely surprised.

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One more thing -- when your partner (incorrectly by rule) requested this delay, he should have done so by holding the card (yellow or red) against the wrist in front of his hand at head height on the side of the offending team. There should have been no surprise.

NCAA is just a hand against the wrist, since R2 doesn't carry cards.
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