NFHS acts to slow down games

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

That is seriously their reasoning? They want games to last longer, so lets make the coach call time out more often to enter subs and make the umpire make multiple lineup entries rather than just 1?

As if many high school games dont go on longer than they need to in the first place.

I selectively edited their comment on the rule change for sarcastic effect.

[Big Slick]

I have sent two scenarios to my state rule interpreter, who is on the national rule committee. Both are "common procedures" in the past which may now be disallowed by rule.

Scenario 1: The visiting team entering the DP on defense at the plate conference.
Scenario 2: A sub (not the flex) runs for the DP. After the offensive half of the inning, the coach wants to re-enter the DP as to not forget when it is her time to bat.

In neither of these scenarios will the player "immediately play."

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

I have sent two scenarios to my state rule interpreter, who is on the national rule committee. Both are "common procedures" in the past which may now be disallowed by rule.

Scenario 1: The visiting team entering the DP on defense at the plate conference.
Scenario 2: A sub (not the flex) runs for the DP. After the offensive half of the inning, the coach wants to re-enter the DP as to not forget when it is her time to bat.

In neither of these scenarios will the player "immediately play."

To me, #2 offers the most absurdity. The coach can and MUST reenter the DP if she is playing defense, but may NOT if she isn't playing defense.

[darkside]

Doesn't this

NOTE: One American flag, not to exceed 2 inches by 3 inches, may be worn or occupy space on the jersey.

conflict with this

4 U.S. Code § 8 - Respect for flag (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by darkside

Doesn't this
conflict with this

Same argument I made when ASA did this.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by darkside

Doesn't this
conflict with this

Yes it does, yes it does, yes it does and has continued to conflict with both the code and respect.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I have not ever allowed a projected substitution in either baseball or fast pitch softball. While it may slow the game down a bit it is one ounce of prevention that prevents one pound of horse manure hitting the fan.

MTD, Sr.

[RKBUmp]

No rule set has ever issued a definition of what a projected sub was (until now). And, their case plays all involved trying to make 2 moves with the same player, not entering multiple players on offense.

[SWFLguy]

Seriously, what is so wrong with say a coach entering a sub and telling you that the player being subbed for will re-enter. Why is it so critical that such change be made in two separate announcements? I don't get the need for it. Easier for me to make a note one time. And don't give me the "but if" excuse. You mean I can't handle that if it happens? Move the game along.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by SWFLguy

Seriously, what is so wrong with say a coach entering a sub and telling you that the player being subbed for will re-enter. Why is it so critical that such change be made in two separate announcements? I don't get the need for it. Easier for me to make a note one time. And don't give me the "but if" excuse. You mean I can't handle that if it happens? Move the game along.

Actual example from about 3 years ago in the playoffs... caused a long delay and a protest...

Sub #10 pinch hitting for Starter # 1. Coach says 1 will be going right back in for 10. Umpire accepts this without clarification, informs scorekeeper.

Team bats around, 10 bats again. On defense, 1 goes back in.

Argument ensues over whether 10 batting again was a 2nd reentry (making 1 ineligible to come back in) as the scorekeeper and umpire were told 1 was reentering after 10's first at bat.

[Stat-Man]

Here is a link to the rule change:

2016 Softball Rules Changes

Didn't see a detailed explanation, but the POE's will be:

• FP Strike Zone
• DP/Flex Education (whatever that means)
• FP Pitching

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Whenever I see something like this from NFHS, I quietly say to myself, over and over, "Thank GOD we (New York) don't follow NFHS...." Right, EsqUmp?

[jmkupka]

Originally Posted by SWFLguy

Seriously, what is so wrong with say a coach entering a sub and telling you that the player being subbed for will re-enter. Why is it so critical that such change be made in two separate announcements? I don't get the need for it. Easier for me to make a note one time. And don't give me the "but if" excuse. You mean I can't handle that if it happens? Move the game along.

I'd like to see how you would indicate this on your lineup card...

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I have not ever allowed a projected substitution in either baseball or fast pitch softball. While it may slow the game down a bit it is one ounce of prevention that prevents one pound of horse manure hitting the fan.

MTD, Sr.

There is nothing in OBR that prevents you from accepting multiple offensive changes to the batting order. The players are in the game as of the manager telling you and the replaced players are out of the game at that point. It would be rare for a manager to want to tie himself down like that but it can happen.
I agree that projected re-entries and defensive position changes should not be accepted.