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Old Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:48am
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NFHS acts to slow down games

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COMMENTS ON 2016 RULE CHANGES
Projected Substitute: In Rule 3-3-3 there is a statement that "projected substitutions are not permitted" however, projected substitutes are not currently defined in the Rules Book. Therefore the creation of rule 2-57-4, NEW: A projected substitute is defined as a player who does not immediately participate in the game.

Rule 2-57-4 has been added because there are situations where coaches attempt to speed up the game by making multiple substitutions on offense that may not happen immediately. This is an inappropriate practice on offense because we need games to last longer for the overall players' experience. Therefore, coaches may only substitute for the immediate player at bat. This will cause multiple time outs called, one for each substitute, and will result in the umpire removing and notating on his lineup card and then informing the opposing coach and official scorekeeper multiple times. This extra time will allow the players a breather from the action, slow down the game, and enhance the overall player experience which is a primary goal of NFHS athletics. Note: Multiple substitutions on defense are not considered projected substitutes as all players are immediately entering the field of play at the same time. Maybe next year we will come up with a rule change to require these to be announced one at a time, too. Besides, this makes us more like the NCAA and ensures that NFHS coaches don't confuse themselves and can make a smooth transition to a college coaching position.
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:49pm
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That is seriously their reasoning? They want games to last longer, so lets make the coach call time out more often to enter subs and make the umpire make multiple lineup entries rather than just 1?

As if many high school games dont go on longer than they need to in the first place.
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:55pm
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That is seriously their reasoning? They want games to last longer, so lets make the coach call time out more often to enter subs and make the umpire make multiple lineup entries rather than just 1?

As if many high school games dont go on longer than they need to in the first place.
I selectively edited their comment on the rule change for sarcastic effect.
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:02pm
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I have sent two scenarios to my state rule interpreter, who is on the national rule committee. Both are "common procedures" in the past which may now be disallowed by rule.

Scenario 1: The visiting team entering the DP on defense at the plate conference.
Scenario 2: A sub (not the flex) runs for the DP. After the offensive half of the inning, the coach wants to re-enter the DP as to not forget when it is her time to bat.

In neither of these scenarios will the player "immediately play."
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Old Tue Jul 21, 2015, 04:50pm
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I have sent two scenarios to my state rule interpreter, who is on the national rule committee. Both are "common procedures" in the past which may now be disallowed by rule.

Scenario 1: The visiting team entering the DP on defense at the plate conference.
Scenario 2: A sub (not the flex) runs for the DP. After the offensive half of the inning, the coach wants to re-enter the DP as to not forget when it is her time to bat.

In neither of these scenarios will the player "immediately play."
To me, #2 offers the most absurdity. The coach can and MUST reenter the DP if she is playing defense, but may NOT if she isn't playing defense.
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Old Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:15pm
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Doesn't this
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4 U.S. Code § 8 - Respect for flag (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:07pm
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Our (MTD, Jr. and Sr.) two cents.

I have not ever allowed a projected substitution in either baseball or fast pitch softball. While it may slow the game down a bit it is one ounce of prevention that prevents one pound of horse manure hitting the fan.

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Old Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:20pm
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No rule set has ever issued a definition of what a projected sub was (until now). And, their case plays all involved trying to make 2 moves with the same player, not entering multiple players on offense.
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:10pm
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Seriously, what is so wrong with say a coach entering a sub and telling you that the player being subbed for will re-enter. Why is it so critical that such change be made in two separate announcements? I don't get the need for it. Easier for me to make a note one time. And don't give me the "but if" excuse. You mean I can't handle that if it happens? Move the game along.
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Old Tue Jul 21, 2015, 03:22pm
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I have not ever allowed a projected substitution in either baseball or fast pitch softball. While it may slow the game down a bit it is one ounce of prevention that prevents one pound of horse manure hitting the fan.

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There is nothing in OBR that prevents you from accepting multiple offensive changes to the batting order. The players are in the game as of the manager telling you and the replaced players are out of the game at that point. It would be rare for a manager to want to tie himself down like that but it can happen.
I agree that projected re-entries and defensive position changes should not be accepted.
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