Batter "Walks" on Ball 3

[wallyb]

so would i but what would your response be to a coach who told you that he was going to have every batter run on ball 3?

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by wallyb

so would i but what would your response be to a coach who told you that he was going to have every batter run on ball 3?

Stupid coaching. Wouldn't work after the second time (at the latest).

[wallyb]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Stupid coaching. Wouldn't work after the second time (at the latest).

im not sure so thats true but thats not the point we are addressing

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by wallyb

so would i but what would your response be to a coach who told you that he was going to have every batter run on ball 3?

Same answer

[wallyb]

ok..and after the 6th or 7th time of using this tactic, accomplishing nothing except delaying the game, would you just continue reminding the batter that is was only ball 3 and please come back to the box or would you take another approach?

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by wallyb

ok..and after the 6th or 7th time of using this tactic, accomplishing nothing except delaying the game, would you just continue reminding the batter that is was only ball 3 and please come back to the box or would you take another approach?

I'm sensing a bit of troll-ism here.

[wallyb]

no..its not that at all. im just looking for the proper way to handle this situation. if im asking to many questions its because im ignorant of what to do. i came on this site because i have been following it and decided to join in. am i taking the wrong approach?..i know irishmafia knows what he is talking about but his answer of "call the game as it unfolds" doesnt really answer my question of what to do. what i read into his answer, if im getting this right, they can run every batter on ball 3 all they want and we have no grounds or rule basis to stop them because they are doing nothing wrong...is that correct? sorry if im giving the wrong impression

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by wallyb

no..its not that at all. im just looking for the proper way to handle this situation. if im asking to many questions its because im ignorant of what to do. i came on this site because i have been following it and decided to join in. am i taking the wrong approach?..i know irishmafia knows what he is talking about but his answer of "call the game as it unfolds" doesnt really answer my question of what to do. what i read into his answer, if im getting this right, they can run every batter on ball 3 all they want and we have no grounds or rule basis to stop them because they are doing nothing wrong...is that correct? sorry if im giving the wrong impression

But you've been answered 4 times, all the same. And then you reply with a nearly identical situation that has the same answer.

Most of what you just posted is not correct, btw. Go read all of the previous replies, not just Irish.

[wallyb]

ok..thank you

[Manny A]

My reference to troll-ism is because you're bringing up scenarios that are too far-fetched to be realistic. Six or seven times? I've never seen anything even remotely close.

By rule, you can call a strike on the batter for leaving the box (assuming the exceptions others have cited from the rule do not take place). If the coach wants to accept those strikes, so be it. If you really wanted to pull out the forfeit card because of the game delays, nobody could argue against it. You might even be able to forfeit since the coach is willfully violating rules. But those should be last resorts.

[wallyb]

MannyA....thank you very much...now its clear...looking back i see that was what some of the others were trying to explain to me but i just didnt get it for some reason. at times i can be a little thick. thanks for your explanation and for everyones patience. no troll here, just trying to learn a few things

[UmpireErnie]

ASA 8-7-P cant apply to BR running on Ball 3 as this rule is for "runners who have scored or been put out". This offensive player is still just a batter, and has not committed INT simply by not knowing the count and running on ball three, shame on F2 for attempting to throw out the batter (not a runner or batter-runner) at 2B.

The defense has to know the count and the situation. As others have stated I will announce "That was ball three!" if I see batter run on ball three but unless i do it so forcefully as to bring play to a stop more often than not these announcements usually go unnoticed. I would not have INT here absent some other obvious action by the count confused batter such as her kicking the ball away from a defensive player or some such.